GeoTheo

Talulah,
You are being disingenuous. Do I have to spell it out for you?

Talulah

Why, because pedophiles are fulfilled by children?

*smirk*

Sexual abuse is about a need for power. It isn't about love.

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Princess of Peace

You mean you'd pay all of my medical bills? Wow! I'd be very grateful! ... But then I'd think what you were trying to get out of it.

Good neighborliness has nothing to do with beliefs, but has everything to do with actions. It is orthopraxy, not orthodoxy. This is why some here give Dave Mathews a hard time; not because of his beliefs, but because of his actions. It is not so simple, though. You see, beliefs shape actions. Does your religious belief that homosexuality is a sin change your actions such that you are not a good neighbor?

GeoTheo

Talulah,
Spare me the fake moral indignation. So homosexuality is off limits for discussion? Untouchable subject?
So I am supposed to just roll over and agree with you or I'm stupid and cruel?
I include homosexuality in my list of immoral sexual behaviors.
Prove that makes me a bigot because I have a list that is longer than yours.
You can't and it pisses you off.

Zippy

Let me start by saying that I am not one of these people that subscribes to the notion that all anti-gay bigots are themselves gay.

That said - if you honestly believe that people 'choose' to be gay, I think you should consider the possibility that you are bisexual. Because I'll tell you what - as a straight guy, I find the idea of homosexuality to be utterly vile. Not morally, just physically. It has a real 'yuk' factor. I don't have anything against homosexuals, but if I see them kissing I'll look away pretty sharpish! Unless it's two women

So if you think you could choose to be gay - then, well, that may say something about you. Equally it may not - but I'd be interested to hear where you personally stand on the subject of 'choice'. Putting aside moral or image problems, could you 'choose' to be gay? I know I couldn't. I'd vomit at the first hurdle.

Paul

GeoTheo

Could that be because you are a religious bigot by any chace?
No, I actually think it does not. I obviously was made uncomfortable by people trying to sexually prey on me. But in the cases where that dynamic was not there, in the cases of gay friends, aquaintances, brothers in Christ,it did/does not make a difference. You will just have to take my word on that.

Queen of Swords

I wasn't aware that to you, generalizations about groups of people (made during a debate) were inherently funny.

Do you have any other knee-slappers about the sexual proclivities of men vs. those of women that you'd like to share?

Talulah

That was not fake moral indignation.

Homosexuality is not an untouchable subject. I don't remember indicating that I thought it was.

I did not call you stupid. I think your comparisons are though. Cruel is being decided.

Wouldn't it be nice if people just rolled over and agreed with us? Doesn't happen though

It is well within your right to think whatever to want to is immoral. I think a lot of things are immoral. I understand that you can only view homosexuality through the lens of the bible and your religion. I am not making a call on whether that makes you a bigot or not. If you lack tolerance, it is because of your religion.

Please don't try to tell me what I feel.

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GeoTheo

So rick do you hate Christians?

Dr Rick

...Nope, I'm even in favor of allowing them to marry and adopt children.

Rick

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