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Old 02-03-2003, 02:50 PM   #41
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Of course, that the perception of hetero sex as ""woman goes on knees, man has his fun" is not necessarily that innacurate doesn't mean that it's all like that. Well, most men love a blow job, but a lot of us love to return the favour ten times over (though sadly not all of us).
oh goodness no, i wouldnt even dare think such things. Atrocious generalisations really arent my style.

As ive said, rationally i know a healthy relationship is a healthy relationship <hetero or homo, both can and do exist quite prolifically>, but unfortunately my subconcious wants to tell me otherwise for no apparent reason. And so long as im a rational thinking human being, im going to know that and keep it under control.
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I think many men think of male-male sex in the Dominant/Submissive context.
So what is male-male sex?

Myself and and other people I have talked to do not like the "anal" thing. (sorry I couldn't sugar coat it better than that.)

Their are plenty of other ways two guys can get freaky with each other that do not necessarily involve domination or submission.
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Personally I'm curious as to how someone can get an orgasm out of anal sex. Even with lubricant. I mean, up there, things are supposed to come down, not up, and well, if things go up, the body can make it so that you pretty uncomfortable.

Believe me, I've tried. I don't ever want to do it again.

What I'm real curious to know is how lesbians have sex, besides oral. My friend said that they can stick their fists up. I think she's wrong and crazy...

She is...right?
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Old 02-03-2003, 07:58 PM   #44
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Harumi, I've personally never done anything like that...sounds too painful! But I do know that it (the fist thing) is done. And I've known it to occur in a variety of sexual situations: male/male, female/female, and male/female. Variety is the spice of life, so they say.

Regarding the unrelated question posed to women earlier (just general to all):

Oh, and on the bisexual females finding male on male intimacy sexy...here's one more vote for "HELL YES!"
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Old 02-03-2003, 09:36 PM   #45
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Personally I'm curious as to how someone can get an orgasm out of anal sex. Even with lubricant. I mean, up there, things are supposed to come down, not up, and well, if things go up, the body can make it so that you pretty uncomfortable.

Believe me, I've tried. I don't ever want to do it again.
Well, men have a prostate, which could be called the male g-spot (I know that I certainly enjoy a finger or two up my ass during a blowjob). As for women, there are other sexual tissues than the clitoris (or the clitoris extends internally depending on your definition).

Now, if done properly anal sex should not be uncomfortable. You still might not enjoy it, but it should at least not be painful. It is really something you should work up to rather than jump right into - sexual excitement, relaxation, and lubricant are key.

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What I'm real curious to know is how lesbians have sex, besides oral. My friend said that they can stick their fists up. I think she's wrong and crazy...

She is...right?
Well, in addition to mouths there are toys (a huge variety) and fingers and so on. An entire hand is quite the undertaking, but two fingers works extremely well, and even four is relatively easy.
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What I'm real curious to know is how lesbians have sex, besides oral. My friend said that they can stick their fists up. I think she's wrong and crazy...

She is...right?
I think many people make mistakes about "fisting". A woman would not just make a fist with her hand and shove it up there. That would hurt, if it would go in at all.

No, it's the sort of thing one goes into gradually, a finger at a time. Some manage to use the whole hand, but not all. I suppose it depends on the size of the hands and the personal preferences of the other woman.

But there are plenty of other ways gay women have sex. It's usually down to variations on mutual masturbation and cunnilingus. Sex toys are also sometimes used, but probably no more than for a straight couple.
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Oh good. That's gotten me relieved. I can see how that could work. I was imagining a fist, and I was thinking: "NO, hell no, how in world would that be able to fit?"

Tronvillain, you're funny. You're the first guy I know to actually say something like that. I believe you're married? If you are, that is so cool.

That's what I like about this place. People are so open about sex. Whereas in school, people give me weird looks, or refrain from talking about it because it's 'wrong'. The good thing though, is that gays aren't molested in our school like other schools do. One of our teacher's gay, and he even brought his boyfriend with us when we took our trip to England. He ordered us to wake up at six but then came down last. I wonder why...

My views toward homosexuality changed after I started watching anime. Must be something unique of mine. Before, I thought it was icky.

Anyone else have that same experience?
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Tronvillain, you're funny. You're the first guy I know to actually say something like that. I believe you're married? If you are, that is so cool.
Well, I suspect many guys are worried that enjoying anal play would make them less of a heterosexual ("That's gay!"), but I am extremely secure in my sexuality. Anyway, I am not now and have never been married - I am not even currently seeing anyone. Which is sad really... my talents are going to waste. *chuckle*

On working up to anal sex: obviously cleanliness is in order if you are going to use your tongue, and short filed nails and/or gloves are probably in order if you are going to use your fingers.
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I'd hate to see the poor fundamentalist reading this thread, in hopes of a moral-debate.
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Well, perhaps they would learn something.
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