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Old 07-31-2002, 08:59 AM   #71
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...so is God Ok, now let me get back to business....
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Unless you've got something better to refute your own logical inconsistency with, I'll choose to continue ignoring you. Go market your politics in some other thread.


I think this has already been said, but wtp? Ummm - maybe my knowledge of semantic needs work, but if there is a logical consitency in Koy's what-argument that you're wrong? The emotions are based on biological stimulae? What? (note, you used the singular so excepting that Koy made a single argument/refutation...oh well) ...my point remains that you cant refute logical inconsistencies - they merely point of out a flaw in a logical construct which then refutes the construct, not the actual inconsistency. Now, maybe I'm just young, stupid and blind, but I missed a logical construct being formed in Koy's post...

As for you ignoring people, that seems to be about par for the course GG.

...Now marketing politics...I wasn't aware Koy's viewpoint represented a political stance. Are you referring to arguments for atheism or for something I've missed? As it stands - nonsensical.

...sorry I'm too lazy to add in bold and italics like my "betters" but, hey, whatev.


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Old 07-31-2002, 09:07 AM   #73
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Adrian!

"Love is an objective entity? DO you have evidence to back up this assertion.

Love is a word that we use to describe feelings and experiences, and ..."

Well adrian, God is or can be a word that we use to describe feeling and experiences and...

No?

Also, of course love can refer to an object or Being. How else do you associate the concept Love?

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<strong>... let me get back to business....</strong>
OK. Where does the atheist say the "EOG= is [dis]proved by the apriori of concepts"?
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Congratulations, WJ!

You've just demonstrated that humans create words!
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No?</strong>
Yes! 'God' is indeed a word that we can use to describe feelings and experiences! Has anyone here denied that?

Now, if only you could give any evidence that these are experiences and feelings of anything that exists outside your imagination!
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Oh, but, Hobbs, the concept love does not exist outside of your own imagination, right?

So if the concept love (not the concept of love, just the concept love, whatever the hell that means) doesn't exist outside of your own imagination, then neither does God.

Let's be logically consistent!
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Koy, you ignorant slut! Look, the concept love obviously exists in your mind, right? You used the concept, didn't you? Therefore, it does indeed exists outside of my mind. I object to your line of reasoning, therefore it is objective. Since the concept God is the same way, God is love. And since I have never seen love, love must be blind. And since we all know Ray Charles is blind, we can logically conclude by a preposteriori conditions for logical concepts that Ray Charles is God!

(By the way, have you ever seen the inside of Ray Charles' house? No? Well, neither has he.)
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Random!

Sorry you don't have the benefit of history on your side. If you wish to demonstrate thru logic that love exists, that would probably be the best place to start. And if you can prove thru the logic of language (reason alone) that it does, then I wonder if you could tell me how the same feelings associated with the concept God can be denied?

Another way to look at it might be to ask what is the essence of the concept known as Love, and what is the essence of the concept known as God? How are they similar, and how are they different?

The similarities relates to experience. Atheists deny the truth associated with the synthesis of concepts and experience when it comes to proving EOG.

Again, explain love's existence. As perhaps another example, refute the statement: God is love. Does it assume too much? How do we verify the assumption? What should you put in place of that word God from that particular statement making it sound more convincing? Is it nonsensical? Why? Could you supplant the God with chimpanzee?

The answer is that it is possible to make it coherent with almost any object or concept or antecedent.

Again, explain the thing called love?

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<strong>Koy, you ignorant slut! Look, the concept love obviously exists in your mind, right? You used the concept, didn't you? Therefore, it does indeed exists outside of my mind. I object to your line of reasoning, therefore it is objective. Since the concept God is the same way, God is love. And since I have never seen love, love must be blind. And since we all know Ray Charles is blind, we can logically conclude by a preposteriori conditions for logical concepts that Ray Charles is God!</strong>
No, but since the concept of Koy as an ignorant slut now exists ...
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