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View Poll Results: How did you do on the test?
I got them all right! - 19 26 35.62%
Almost all right - 17-18 28 38.36%
I missed some - 13-16 11 15.07%
I can't remember all of that crap! 6 8.22%
I missed a lot, I hate math! 2 2.74%
I cheated and used a calculator! 0 0%
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Old 03-17-2003, 07:39 AM   #11
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Talking Woohoo! An 'A' in 8th grade math!

I got 18/19, but only because of a math error in calculating the area of the circle...

Damn math errors!
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Old 03-17-2003, 07:41 AM   #12
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I did however use the biblical value of pi and got the right answers on those questions. Praise the Lord!
Me too

Pi=3 is useful for "back of the napkin" calculations, but for serious stuff you need more precision.

The Lord approximately works in mysterious ways!

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Old 03-17-2003, 07:48 AM   #13
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"Back of the napkin?!" Is that one step removed from "back of the envelope?"
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Old 03-17-2003, 07:53 AM   #14
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19/19 in my head. There were a couple of dicey arithmetic bits that a pen and paper would have helped with. Otherwise it boils down to remembering a few things (how to calculate the area of a circle, how to figure out the hypotenuse of a right triangle, etc.).
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Default 15/19 :(

I got bogged down on some of the non-obvious math questions. Had I been able to use a calculator, I would have done better, probably 19/19.

That brings up a point about the opinions I've heard about computers and calculators. A lot of folks think that they are dumbing down students by computing answers for them. To some extent, I guess I agree. After all, with using a calculator, I had some trouble with multiplying large numbers and long division.

But I think it's more important to know the math behind these calculations, to know what the numbers are actually doing. I could write a program that would allow students to plug in the numbers for every one of these problems and get them all correct. But then that would measure the accuracy of my program rather than the readyness the of the student for graduation. With just a calculator, they have to know how to do the math before they could even start to put in numbers.

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19/19, but I would hope so...that ten years I spent earning a B.S. in mathematics ought to count for something.

I did use a scratch pad for several. For some reason, after calculus I lost all ability to do arithmetic in my head.

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You know, same thing happened to me. No more simple addition in head. All gone.

19/19
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"Back of the napkin?!" Is that one step removed from "back of the envelope?"
But it's a step above "back of the toilet paper square".

19/19 -- I was somewhat suprised at the "number of paths" question, though. The answer is pretty obvious in this case, but I can't see a good way to generalize it with 8th grade math knowledge.
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Old 03-17-2003, 08:37 AM   #19
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I can't do arithmetic in my head, like many others I seem to have lost that ability as I learned calc. I got 18/19 because I *severely* overthought the first problem. Been a computer scientist too long, I see the words "start in this city[...] end in this city[...] how many [...] routes[..]?" and automatically go for the O(N!) answer.
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19/19! But that's to be expected from someone with a BS in Mathematics!
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