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Old 05-25-2002, 04:25 AM   #61
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DRFseven,

After boning up a bit on the lot of feral children, I see the validity of the point you made concerning innateness of language ability. I agree that the capacity for language is innate and the ability demands a model. It is also apparent to me that the model for language must be present early enough in a child's physical development to be reinforced by intimacy between the child and the model, a comfortable state for the child which diminishes as it matures.

The phenomenal consciousness of SOD, then may have to do with a child's development from a state similar to autism to one forced on the
child by "expulsion from the nest" or from
parental intimacy. Not much has been done yet, I believe,in science or philosophy to give even putative argument for levels of innate capacity.

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Forgive me my tresspasses (personal animosity toward Carruthers}. IMHO, what science and philosophy investigate in hopes to clarify are the experential subject/object phenomena of individuation, metamorphosis and synthesis on a linear, cause and effect spectrum. This is not an Hegelian model; it is a model based on individual, organismic evolution or change due to motion.

Evolution has to be examined in these terms because, so far, these are all we have. No "ghost in a machine" or other supernatural explanations of consciousness can integrate common sense with findings in physics or speculations in philosophy.

The aim of science and philosophy, IMO, should be to render the commonality of personal experience its freedom from illusion. This does not imply negation of relgious or mythological concepts of bearings for human identity. It implies a convergence of intellectual discipline that could possibly stand for the identifying illusions from which we now suffer.


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Post Script;

In order to think past Cartesian SOD and Hegelian thesis. antithesis, synthesis, we must consider the evolutionary flux in these terms as explanations of methods of motion, not as definitions of any final end of motion.

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