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Old 04-16-2003, 06:12 PM   #31
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First, SARS can be highly contagious to the casual bystander as compared to AIDS. Second, per the news story and therefore are contaminating people who are unaware the person is infected. Third, knowingly seeing a sick person knowing beforehand how to prevent infection is NOT the same as being exposed unawares.
Absolutly ! my point was that avoiding attending any church for fear to becoming ill with any infection seems to me to be a lesser reason than an ideological conviction which deviates from the religion promoted by any church.
As far as refusing quarantaine, I do not believe it is an option in the US.
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For example, currently in the USA there are gathered even distant descendants of ancient jews quilty in killing of Jesus Crist


Must be a conspiracy, then. Please enlighten me further: name them, providing detailed geneologies. Street addresses and a current driver's license photo would be appreciated too. Ta.
Not very healthy example of curiosity. However, that can be done, BUT fine energies are given for spiritual growth of the consciousnesses, not for wasting like entertaining utilitarian mind and satisfying its appetites. It is not spiritually safe practice to pay for such entertainment karmically. It all has been done many times and people refer to these phenomena as miracles. These thing do happen occasionally for educational purposes, BUT it is Higher that decides which kind of show is to be demonstrated, when that should take place etc. I wrote about shooting a movie "Earth - the planet of biorobots" in the tread "Islam - the gravedigger of Judaism and Christianity" (will probably make a separate thread for the purpose). That would be a wonderful opportunity to see various miracles, to tape them and make public, which would help remove further scepticism of the planet's population.

Regarding your question itself. Genealogy refers to the origins of physical body, while I was mentioning souls that may be dressed up differently in different incarnations, according to the scenarios of the Higher.

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Old 04-16-2003, 11:18 PM   #33
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Is Vitalij a crank bot? His words are utterly meaningless, and aren't even grammatically correct.

Now if all the cranks in the world can simply cure all the SARS patients with their miraculous powers, instead of spewing rants about the Free Will of the Powers That Be (which are indistinguishable from the effects of random chance), then we can talk. It's very simple.
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Why such conclusions? No, it is not OK to discriminate against anybody.


But it would be like Megan's Law since we know who the bad people are since the cosmic forces lump them together in misery, we can avoid them so they don't negatively influence us.

It is not your task to decide "who the bad people are". I did not say about any direct connection between somebody's misery and acting cosmic forces. You are trying to measure things from "getting more earthly pleasures" point of view. In fact, people with high level of spiritual development are usually despised and spat upon - exactly the behaviour you are describing. What if you act like that towards a Cosmic Envoy? In such a situation you are being checked, and the result of such a check will bring its fruits.

People acted the same way towards all the Prophets and Envoys of The Open Cosmos. Everything always was going by a standard rolled pathway: tortures, insults, public scoffing, and for the dessert, usually, physical execution of the madman was served. But the mystery of Christ will not repeat anymore. And everybody who sowed the wind will reap the Storm. In doing so they will be helped by The Avatars, whos official manifestation always starts from the destruction in the Working Void of everything unfit for evolution.

For familiarisation with elementary safety practices I would recommend to read Information #4. Have a pleasant reading!

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It is clearly stated that the originals of the texts from the shock-site are written not in English. You can use the programs-translators to get English version. I am not a native English speaker, but my English is not that bad to familiarise the readers with the vital materials from the shock-site. For example, you can start from the Glossary of terms.

I do not quite see your point whether you have something against me personally. Preventing other consciousnesses from receiving a vital for their survival information could be a risky exercise though. I placed the link about elementary spiritual safety practices in my previous message. Information #4 elucidates the consequences of generating negative thoughts. Highly recommended reading!

To simply cure SAR patients is possible (I wrote about the miracles in the earlier post), but you are missing the point.

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Just shut up and do it! *duh*
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Regarding your question itself. Genealogy refers to the origins of physical body, while I was mentioning souls that may be dressed up differently in different incarnations, according to the scenarios of the Higher.
And how exactly is a rational sceptic supposed to be able to deduce that you were referring to "souls" when you said "For example, currently in the USA there are gathered even distant descendants of ancient jews quilty in killing of Jesus Crist"?
When you used the word "descendants" you inferred a physical relationship. Or are you going to try and tell me now (as part of your argumentative perambulation) that souls are capable of generating progeny?
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And how exactly is a rational sceptic supposed to be able to deduce that you were referring to "souls" when you said "For example, currently in the USA there are gathered even distant descendants of ancient jews quilty in killing of Jesus Crist"?
When you used the word "descendants" you inferred a physical relationship. Or are you going to try and tell me now (as part of your argumentative perambulation) that souls are capable of generating progeny?
Dear Godot,

My apologies if I am not expressing myself clear enough. Let's read the whole message, not only the extract that you quoted:

"You are missing the factor of reincarnation here. One soul can be incarnated in various societies during its numerous incarnations on the planet. By the time this global spectacle is approaching its end, the souls will be sorted to be placed in the country most apt to person's spiritual slogs. For example, currently in the USA there are gathered even distant descendants of ancient jews quilty in killing of Jesus Crist, not mentioning the latest crime that brought a premature physical death of Great Teacher of the Universe Osho-Rajneesh. "

Really, it is much better to read the texts from the site, even though the translation is far from being perfect.

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my point was that avoiding attending any church for fear to becoming ill with any infection seems to me to be a lesser reason than an ideological conviction which deviates from the religion promoted by any church.
If a person acts responsibly in avoiding getting sick how is that an invalid reason?
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It is not your task to decide "who the bad people are". I did not say about any direct connection between somebody's misery and acting cosmic forces.
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And the bigger these violations, the stronger his crimes in relation to the world of truly existing reality are and the more problems of various kinds he is to face
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By the time this global spectacle is approaching its end, the souls will be sorted to be placed in the country most apt to person's spiritual slogs.
And this was in response to my noting the greater misery in Africa vs North America. So by what I've read, it is possible to know who the bad people are because they suffer the most misery.
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