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Old 02-22-2003, 03:50 PM   #11
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An individual in a homosexual relationship can have a kid, but not from the relationship. The other means are more expensive, especially for gays, and as you say, they don't happen by accident.
Yeah, so, what's your point? My point is that accepting homosexuals into a group is not going to cause the extinction of that group... or lesson the group's numbers significantly. 1) b/c homosexuals are only 15% of the population and 2) they do have kids, some way or another.
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Loren 's succinct reply nails it for me: the best way to assimilate other religions whilst ensuring the survival of yours would've been to out-breed them.

One of my Christian friends...wait, my only Christian friend...reasoned that it was OK for someone to be homosexual, as long as they didn't actually do anything sexual. Now we know why Paul was so up-tight.

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Some have postulated that the hateful Fred Phelps (http://www.godhatesfags.com) is a closet homosexual. A shame he doesn't have Paul's (is his existence considered factual?) restraint.
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Yeah, so, what's your point? My point is that accepting homosexuals into a group is not going to cause the extinction of that group... or lesson the group's numbers significantly. 1) b/c homosexuals are only 15% of the population and 2) they do have kids, some way or another.
However, they are much less fertile grounds for breeding new worshippers. Force them into heterosexuality and you get more subjects.
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Some have postulated that the hateful Fred Phelps (http://www.godhatesfags.com) is a closet homosexual. A shame he doesn't have Paul's (is his existence considered factual?) restraint.
It wouldn't shock me. The viruently homophobic are often covering up their own homosexual desires.
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Sex in any religion with another man is not likely to be looked on as a view of the face of God. When you think of God as being the most absolute, Good, Perfect, Loving being than you dont think of any imperfections such as Man 1 placing his fully erect Penis in Man 2s Posterior region. It is not compliant with the purpose of the respected two mens genital region. The beauty of mariage is the bond of completing the circle of creation and only with the respected partners. An all good God would look upon a life lived between his two antomically oppsed mates as being "good".
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An all good God would look upon a life lived between his two antomically oppsed mates as being "good".
If this good god (if he exists, which most of us here doubt) hated homosexuality so much, why did he make gay macaques and gay orangutans?

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If this good god (if he exists, which most of us here doubt) hated homosexuality so much, why did he make gay macaques and gay orangutans?

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Because the 'good' god is a closet homo, like Jesus (why else would he do nothing when Judas KISSED him).

And because of that reason, the 'good' god also enjoys whacking off to stuff like that!
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"Christianity" (whutevah dat is) should become extinct & disappear from human history & human consciousness ASAP. That wd take care of a considerable amt of bullshit thinking & bs behaviour.
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Once agian I must stress that in Christianity sex is not embraced except for in cases of mariage and procreation. Any other use of the genitals for sexual purposes clouds the mind with animalistic tendacies much like the gay monkeys that have been mentioned. From this perspective one must assume that we are above animals and have the rational capabilities to discern the "wrongness" of sticking a hard penis in the anus of another man. If this is viewed as wrong by taking standards from the Bible, then Gay marriage is not to be supported by the church and it never should be. You shouldnt lead a life of sin if you truly want to call yourself a christen, jew, hindu, whatever, none of the major faiths condone this sick behavior.
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If this good god (if he exists, which most of us here doubt) hated homosexuality so much, why did he make gay macaques and gay orangutans?
Also from this standpoint of a God creating gay monkeys one must assume from the christian standpoint the effect that sin has had on not just man but animals as well. Whether or not there is an objective standard is really not the case here. The case being that gay = wrong. The case here is whether or not a faith such as christianity should embrace it. The answer is no. Should the Oakland Raiders embrace the Super Bowl as "just for fun" or should they do what is right for the team and fans(ie win). Should the church accept whatever doctrine is tossed at them by a bunch of flamers(ie gay marriage) or should they stick to the doctrines which make them what they are. Shhould an atheist accept God because others feel it is ridicuous........ no, you are what you are. But dont try to get the Christian God to be Gung - Ho over the fact that you are performing twisted acts of sexual deviance and moral ineptitiude and expect a blessing.
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