Radorth

Precisely. Thank you.

And kindly stop making your gratuitous assertions about what I believe when you run out of on-topic arguments. You have often misrepresented what I have said on issues unrelated to the thread in order to impugn me personally. Provide relevant quotes in context, and stick to the subject, or I will report you to the moderators.

Rad

hezekiah jones

Level Crossing Ahead: Beware of Train Wrecks

Daggah

If you can look at the American creationism movement and still say that Christianity isn't a hindrance to science, you're looking through rose-colored glasses, to put it mildly.

lpetrich

Also, Galileo believed that the Bible tells us how to go to Heaven, not how the heavens go.

Radorth:
Precisely. Thank you.

And kindly stop making your gratuitous assertions about what I believe when you run out of on-topic arguments. ...

You have claimed various scientists as support for your beliefs, and I have pointed out that they had supported beliefs that you are known to consider erroneous and heretical, so my comments are completely on-topic.

You have parroted creationist arguments, which are the biological equivalent of the Bible telling us about how the heavens go.

It's a pity that the search function is disabled, because if it was enabled, I'd give you lots of your very own statements on the subject.

And about Catholicism -- Galileo had been a Catholic, and NOT a speaking-in-tongues Sola Scriptura fundie Protestant.

Yellum Notnef

The search function appears to be working just fine today.

Radorth

Because it begs the question and you have no evidence at all about who did it anyway except cynical suspicions.

Never. Jesus gave us a standard we know not everyone meets. Do you ever try to respond to the point? I see no evidence of your sincerity in such statements as these, so you might want to drop the "Sincerely, Goliath" sign off, at least on some posts.

Rad

Radorth

Again, quote me if you can. In fact I've said that neither creation nor evolution can be proved, and that I have a complex theory which includes both, but that is all it is- another theory.

Uh huh. So then you are saying that no important scientist today believes the evidence either way is so slim, we can only propose theories? I'm afraid scientists even today (from my cite) think there is a clue in the "kinds" of Genesis, just as Augustine proposed. And the latter's proposal stands as well as any, 1500+ years later.

Rad

Radorth

Anyway, getting back to the topical questions, how is Christianity a real hindrance to science or intellectual accomplishment? How did it hinder Newton, and if it did not then, why would it hinder anyone now?

Answer: After the Reformation, it did not, it does not, and it will not. And it was no hindrance to men such as Bacon even before the Reformation, who is invariably mentioned in histories of telescope development even though his writings date from the 13th century.

He is also credited with using the "scientific method" before it was called such, and 300 years before any body else did as I recall.

Not one of these men would say Jesus was any hindrance to them. I suspect they would call him an intellectual liberator just as he was a social liberator. But you know more than they do about themselves, right?

Rad

Radorth

Meanwhile, ironically, Rad has recently returned from "worshipping the Lamb in the temple" (Newton's words), to finish writing a patent, hoping his intellectual powers, such as they are, were not mysteriously lost.

Rad

Yellum Notnef

What did Jesus and Radorth invent this time?

So lucky for you that pride is not a sin. Oh wait....