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Old 04-02-2002, 07:14 PM   #21
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Why can't these fool religions have nice straight forward holidays, like, " The Fourth Of July". Now that is an easy one. July 4th. Simple. If you don't know what it means, the answer is in the history book and the event it commemorates is corroborated by many sources.
Ugh. Easter. Weird word. Strange references to pre-christian religions, Jewish myth and heavy handed christian myths. Confusing and strange. Yes, that is just how religion likes its holidays. The more obscurity, the better. Fool religion.
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<strong> Yes, that is just how religion likes its holidays. The more obscurity, the better. Fool religion.</strong>
You mean keep it simple so all Americans can have fun? I would say that without religion there should be no "holy-days."
 
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It's called "Easter" because that's Mr. Bunny's first name. Duh.
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You mean keep it simple so all Americans can have fun? I would say that without religion there should be no "holy-days."</strong>
I will overlook your American bashing. So what. At least The Fourth of July or Independence Day, commemorates a real event and was not placed on an existing commemoration. A declaration of independence from England and the birth of the USA is a day worthy of observance.

A day commemorating the supposed resurrection of a mad messiah from a dusty corner of the Roman Empire based on the obscure delusions of a bunch of people, with way too much time on their hands, is of no comparison. Your Easter is utter nothingness. It commemorates nothing and is nothing. The only rituals which have any meaning are the eggs and bunny rabbit parts which are really projections from the pre-christians.

Oh yeah, I don't call July 4th a holy-day.
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Old 04-03-2002, 03:56 PM   #25
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Oh yeah, I don't call July 4th a holy-day.</strong>
You would if it was a holy-day.

Congratulations sullster and I can now see why you value Independence Day. Maybe I was mixed up with the day you commemorate the "corn patch raid."

With all respect to you and your friends, I think Americans are great people. Truly great actually, but just wrong too often.
 
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So what I'm trying to understand is how the _christian_ church manages to rationalize using a _pagan_ name for their _holiest_ day. Seems it would gall them to pieces. Yet it doesn't. Why?
Speaking from a roman catholic persepctive, the chruch has QUITE a few holidays that happen to coincide with the practices of other religions. Easter, Christmas, All Saints Day, All Souls Day, and even St. John the Baptist's feast day falls on a major solar point, summer solstice.

Personally, I subscribe to the theory that the christian church found it MUCH easier to simply assimliate local (pagan) practices, like Samhain, Midsummer, winter soltice, ect, as opposed to simply trying to squish out other practices. That tactic has worked, rather well, imho, but oddly enough, they don't teach it in their catechism classes.

For easter, however, they do emphasize the link between easter and passover. Quite frankly, ignore Amos in that respect. They did teach it in their annoying catechism classes.

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For easter, however, they do emphasize the link between easter and passover. Quite frankly, ignore Amos in that respect. They did teach it in their annoying catechism classes.

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Well Liana, your Catholics teacher were wrong and you are welcome to ignore me but you should pay attention to what I write.

1) Easter is not Jewish.

2) Passover is when the Christ child was spared.

3) Passover send the Hebrews into the promised land where they died nonetheless.

4) Passover is associated with unleavened bread which is equal to censorship of purgatory.

5) Easter is freedom from censorship in heaven.

6) Jews are awaiting their Easter event and do not recognize the example of Jesus.

Keep in mind that Jesus died for the Children of Israel to show them the way because they kept dying in the promised land and still don't have a clue what Easter is all about. Easter is futuristic for them and if so, how can Easter be the same as Passover.
 
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how can Easter be the same as Passover.

Easter is not Passover. But they are linked. Passover is the last supper. Jesus died shortly after the last supper. Therefore Easter logically is in position around the same time as Passover.

Passover is associated with unleavened bread which is equal to censorship of purgatory.

Matza may be purgatory but Matza ball soup is pure heaven. Yum!
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Liana, All that you were taught in catechism classes is utterly incorrect according to Amos. Amos is the Secweb's source for the obscure,mystical,esoteric psycho-meaning of catholicism which all others have missed.
Kiss the ring of the wise master, our own Famous Amos. Traveller of the mystic realms and knower of the unknowable.
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I'm a little jealous of Amos. Sometimes I think I'd sure like to have everything so well worked out, if only in my own mind.

Then I wake up.
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