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Heathen Dawn · 09-10-2003, 08:07 AM

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After the 9/11 attack, I had someone say to me: 'I'm glad I wasn't in the World Trade Center--I would have died.' I replied, 'Well, don't worry, your turn is coming.'

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Also, consider that more human beings were killed (murdered) by a different sort of terrorism in America on 9/11/01 (as happens every day of the year) than were killed in the terrorist attacks on that tragic day: how many in the US were crying and grieving for all the children that were aborted on that day (and each and every day)?

There seems to be a gross inconsistency here from a national perspective. Maybe if people would condemn the murder of the unborn innocents as they do the 9/11 terrorists, things might be very different; 'When a man's ways please the LORD, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him' (Proverbs 16:7).

What happened on 9/11 should be a reminder to everyone that we live in an evil world, and every human being is already on a death row, because '... all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God' (Romans 3:23).

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But even more than this, let's not forget that death is the real enemy, and that we all need to understand the meaning of death--its origin because of sin--and to remind all that we are condemned to a godless eternity. Unless, that is, we receive the free gift of salvation God offers because He 'is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance' (2 Peter 3:9).

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By the way, if death is the 'last enemy,' how could God have called a world full of death and suffering (as evidenced in the fossil record) over a supposed millions of years 'all very good'? This is only one of the huge dilemmas faced by those many evangelical leaders who compromise God�s Word with 'millions of years' and also reject a global Flood.

JaeIsGod · 09-10-2003, 12:32 PM

I think Ken should do well to get some Prozac

Jamie_L · 09-10-2003, 12:57 PM

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What happened on 9/11 should be a reminder to everyone that we live in an evil world, and every human being is already on a death row, because '... all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God' (Romans 3:23).

Well then, to be callous and flip, all those unborn children are sinners on death row. They've got it coming just like everyone did in the World Trade Center. Although some versions of Christianity have us condemning those children to the abyss because the never know Christ, other versions would say they have a better chance than any of us for getting into heaven, because of their innocence. Maybe we're doing them a favor.

Save the unborn, but let the born rot in hell. That seems to be the mentality of these people.

crocodile deathroll · 09-10-2003, 06:31 PM

Linking Sep 11 to the abortion issue just demonstates to me just what kind a one track mind this crackpot has.

anonymite · 09-10-2003, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by crocodile deathroll
Linking Sep 11 to the abortion issue just demonstates to me just what kind a one track mind this crackpot has.

Bingo. I, for one, still remember wackos like Fallwell using this tragedy to further their own agenda just days after the fact.

Muad'Dib · 09-10-2003, 08:55 PM

Well, to be fair, I've seen a few threads here that have argued that God can't exist because he would have stopped 9/11 (or something to that effect). It seems to be fodder for both sides, FWIW.

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09-10-2003, 12:32 PM	#2
JaeIsGod Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 760	I think Ken should do well to get some Prozac

09-10-2003, 06:31 PM	#4
crocodile deathroll Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Darwin Posts: 1,466	Linking Sep 11 to the abortion issue just demonstates to me just what kind a one track mind this crackpot has.

09-10-2003, 08:55 PM	#6
Muad'Dib Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 845	Well, to be fair, I've seen a few threads here that have argued that God can't exist because he would have stopped 9/11 (or something to that effect). It seems to be fodder for both sides, FWIW.

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