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The Other Michael · 07-02-2002, 01:22 PM

Brighid,

I'm all for the workplace modifications in your 12:18 post, as long as they are available to NON-parents as well.

I'm strongly against treatment that favors parents over non-parents in the workplace as parenting is a choice made by the parents.

There is a thread in Misc. Discussions on
<a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=44&t=001017" target="_blank">Choosing not to have children</a> if anyone is interested in that.

Now back to the major topic at hand . . .

cheers,

[ July 02, 2002: Message edited by: The Other Michael ]</p>

bonduca · 07-02-2002, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Katey:
<strong>Lady, you talk too much.

BTW...pounding someone over the head with your big "I be moderator" stick because you don't like their views is highly uncool. My advice to you is to loosen up. I'm outta here...go wave that stick somewhere else.</strong>

Door...

Viti · 07-02-2002, 01:42 PM

Ass....

snatchbalance · 07-02-2002, 02:42 PM

Katey for president. <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" /> <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" /> <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" />

SB

crab juice · 07-02-2002, 06:24 PM

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Lady, you talk too much.

How dare you do something so unfeminine, brighid!

A topical quote from the book I'm currently reading, Carl Sagan's The Demon-Haunted World, "Sterotypes abound. Ethnic groups are stereotyped, the citizens of other nations and religions are stereotyped, the genders and sexual preferences are stereotyped, people born in various times of the year are stereotyped (Sun-sign astrology), and occupations are stereotyped. The most generous interpretation ascribes it to a kind of intellectual laziness: Instead of judging people on their individual merits and deficits, we concentrate on one or two bits of information about them, and then place them in a small number of previously constructed pigeonholes.

This saves the trouble of thinking, at the price in many cases of committing a profound injustice. It also shields the stereotyper from contact with the enormous variety of people, the multiplicity of ways of being human. Even if stereotyping were valid on average, it is bound to fail in many individual cases. Human variation runs to bell-type curves. There's an average value of any quality, and smaller numbers of people running off both extremes."

A couple of paragraphs later, "If you discourage women from being skeptical and don't train them in skepticism, then sure enough you may find that many women aren't skeptical. Open the doors and let them in, and they're as skeptical as anyone."

Eduhted fir speeling.

[ July 03, 2002: Message edited by: crab juice ]</p>

Viti · 07-02-2002, 06:28 PM

Hol-ee-shit...this thread has gotten ugly...what is causing the strong emotions here people?

Knock it off or I'll take my clothes off

ju'iblex · 07-02-2002, 06:40 PM

Quote:

BTW...pounding someone over the head with your big "I be moderator" stick because you don't like their views is highly uncool. My advice to you is to loosen up. I'm outta here...go wave that stick somewhere else.

uncool? loosen up? outta?

Learn some English my friend, and then perhaps you wont be quite so jealous of brighid's eloquence. She may write long, but she does it damn well.

<img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" /> brighid <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" />

ju'iblex · 07-02-2002, 06:41 PM

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Knock it off or I'll take my clothes off

how dare you???? oh wait... i read it wrong, continue as planned.

The Other Michael · 07-02-2002, 07:37 PM

LadyShea,

just remember to remove the clothes in a fashion that doesn't encourage us to objectify you.

cheers,
Michael

MadMordigan · 07-02-2002, 08:58 PM

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07-02-2002, 01:22 PM	#161
The Other Michael Honorary Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: In the fog of San Francisco Posts: 12,631	Brighid, I'm all for the workplace modifications in your 12:18 post, as long as they are available to NON-parents as well. I'm strongly against treatment that favors parents over non-parents in the workplace as parenting is a choice made by the parents. There is a thread in Misc. Discussions on <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=44&t=001017" target="_blank">Choosing not to have children</a> if anyone is interested in that. Now back to the major topic at hand . . . cheers, [ July 02, 2002: Message edited by: The Other Michael ]</p>

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Viti Contributor Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Down South Posts: 12,879	Ass....

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Viti Contributor Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Down South Posts: 12,879	Hol-ee-shit...this thread has gotten ugly...what is causing the strong emotions here people? Knock it off or I'll take my clothes off

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The Other Michael Honorary Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: In the fog of San Francisco Posts: 12,631	LadyShea, just remember to remove the clothes in a fashion that doesn't encourage us to objectify you. cheers, Michael

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