MortalWombat

You could mention that each gram of water vapor (steam) that condenses to a liquid releases about 539 calories of heat. If 6.22 x 10E21 grams of water fell from a vapor canopy, enough to form a layer of water only 40 feet thick around the world, the temperature of the water and atmosphere would rise 810°F (or 450°C). And that's just for a layer of water 40 feet thick. Basically, Noah and the animals would be a bit warm on the ark, to say the least.

phlebas

Interesting. So the water would vaporize again instantly, likely long before it hit the ground. Probably par-broil a few high-flying birds, though.

Did the sunlight pre-flood look like you were watching it from under water?

Of course, none of this "logic" stuff will change anyone's mind. God can always, for reasons of his own, have his water ignore thermo laws, and leave no evidence afterwards, etc.

Seth K

And some other points as well.

• The vapor canopy would have added it's weight to the atmosphere, increasing the pressure to several times normal. The sudden drop in pressure as it fell to flood the earth would have given Noah and his family the bends.
• Creationists have tried to avoid the above point by claiming that the canopy was in orbit above the atmosphere, thus not contributing any weight. However, no orbital configuration of such a canopy, liquid, or gas, could exist. (The plane of any orbit must pass through the center of the earth. You can't create a set of orbits making a full cover canopy meeting that condition without intersecting, causing multi-mile-per-second collisions that obliterate the canopy in short order.)
• A solid canopy isn't as contradictory to the principles of orbital mechanics. It has been proposed by the likes of "Dr." Baugh, of Paluxy man-tracks fame. That should be reason enough to dismiss it. Also, orbiting solid shells are notoriously unstable, and wouldn't even survive until the Fall, let alone the Flood.

DireStraits

Seth K says:
It has been proposed by the likes of "Dr." Baugh, of Paluxy man-tracks fame. That should be reason enough to dismiss it.

DS: While I agree with everything you say, I think you should have struck this section. Apart from the fact that even a blind hedgehog will sometimes find an apple, it lays you open to changes of ad hominem argument.

But the best reason for striking it is that you don't need it.

manhattan

And if 6.022 x 10E21 molecules of water fell from a vapor canopy, we'd imagine Ghod today as a giant mole.

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Buckster

Ummm... Pardon me but, where's all that water now? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

Blinn

I get to nitpick! 6.022x10^23

nogods4me

poor Avagadro, sure looks like everyone's got his number

BTW, I think the correct scientific name for the aforementioned "Vapor Canopy" theory is Bunk!

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Jimmy Higgins

Poor Avagadro? This is the same person who came up with the term of a mole. Then he creates its abbreviation as mol?

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