Light

Shall we then declare the entire Planet to be Perfectly Italian or Planet Italy and therefore catholic, in the correct sense, and Christian too?

Pi

La Dolce Vita

In Our Cause.

Light

Or consider this Legal point for a change.

All sovereign independent countries prefer their country to be run as a Democracy.

Demo as with demographics means of the people.

But what of those with no country of their own?

Are they being ... truly ... Democratic?

Or are they being satanic?

Government of the Indigenous people, by the Indigenous people, for the Indigenous people.

Now this is Democratic and could be made to be self-sustainable.

But there are those who do not REspect borders or controls.

When in Rome do as the Romans do.

This is ... CHRISTIAN ... Democracy.

According to The Almighty.

Light

As a single Word ....... Love.

In the Beginning there was The Word, and The Word was Love.

And ... that ... is why God Created us all.

To love each other for the Love of Him who Created us.

To give Love and to receive Love in REturn.

The Greatest thing you'll ever learn, is to Love and be Loved in return.

There was a Boy,
A very strange Enchanted Boy,
They say He wondered very far, very far,
Over Land and Sea,
A little shy,
And sad of eye,
But very Wise was He ...

And then one day,
A Magic day He passed my way,
And whilst We spoke of many things,
Fools and Kings,
This He said to me,

The Greatest thing, you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved, in return.

Nat "King" Cole.

You can be a King too ... if ... you think like One.

And every King has His Queen.

Isis and Osiris, King and Queen of the Kingdom of Heaven.

Shall the mortal Isis Osiris marriage pair, married out of love, on Heaven, become Immortal and walk on the waters of Creation for evermore ... Eternally.

We'll see .......

Vinnie

Cult.

Mageth

Originally posted by little
Top of the Marnin to ya Mageth and a Happy Saint Paddy’s Day at that! (I know, I know, you lack belief in saints)

And to you. But I do believe in good old St. Pat.

Ahh… Indeed it does appear to be an obvious caveat doesn’t it lad? It is and rightly so, for with freedom comes responsibility.
We are given this life to begin with, we rent this time here it is not ours for the keepin don’t ya know.

So we were given life, but it's not ours (for the keeping)? That's a loan, not a gift, or a gift with a lot of strings attached.

If a person so chooses to reject the sincerely offered free gift of relationship then God, being the gentleman that he is, will not force himself on that one for an eternity. And how dare that one who has so rejected a free offer turn and demand by right some other claim to eternal life.

Again, I "choose to reject" nothing. I can't choose to reject a relationship with a God I don't believe exists.

And I thought you said I was given life? Why suddenly all the strings, caveats, and conditions? If my life is indeed mine, then why does God get to determine what becomes of my life? If my life is indeed mine, why can't I make demands "by right" to God about what happens to my life?

Most Christians fall into two camps on this point:
Annihilation (i.e. final and complete destruction of every aspect of the person so consumed; no eternal torment)
Or
Eternal Torment (i.e. eternal separation from the source of life which results in self imposed torment)

I lean toward Annihilation.

Well, that's nice. A milder form of the gun to the head, but a gun to the head nonetheless. Accept and believe and the gun will actually kill you, not just send you to hell.

So another one word for Christianity is:
Responsibility

And the responsibility all lies with us to "choose the relationship" or "reject the relationship". God, having supposedly given us life and given us the right to choose or not choose a relationship with him, and supposedly a "gentleman", apparently holds no responsibility to respect our life or our free choice. Instead, its relationship or annihilation. The proverbial gun to the head. Some gentleman. Gentlemen, BTW, don't give "gifts" and then take them away.

The trigger has been pulled and the sentence carried out we all are born dead and bound for the pit

More strings on the "gift" of life that God gave us, I see.

but to “whosoever will�? he offers the free gift of eternal life from the grave. He who condemned me before I was born is now my defender! Indeed it is persuasive.

The "gentleman" who supposedly gave you the "gift" of life (which, when you open it, reveals that you are actually "born dead", and thus the "gift" of life is apparently not life at all) comes forward to delcare himself your "defender" (against, of course, himself, who is the one who condemned you in the first place before you were born to be "born dead and bound for the pit", despite wrapping it in a package labeled a "gift of life). But he will only defend you against yourself if you exercise the choice he allegedly freely gave you in the "life" that was supposedly a gift in the way that he wants you to. He holds a gun in his hand (which, since you are "born dead", he has apparently already fired) and says "Choose me or die."

That's not persuasive at all.

So another one word for Christianity is:
Life for those who are already condemned.

Apparently, life from the hands of the one who has already pulled the trigger, despite the claim that he has given us the "gift" of life and free choice in the matter in the first place.

"Here's the gift of life, but note that you're already dead, and must still choose the gift of life or die." Makes no sense at all.

For some perfect reason no doubt?

If we don't know the reason, then yes there is doubt.

I’ve only ever claimed to coming from the perspective of faith don’t ya know. For without faith it is impossible to please God. It is his intention –I believe- that this life lead us to him by faith or -if we choose- away from him by any other means.

Right. The gift of life comes with an awful lot of strings and not much if any trustworth information on how to untangle them. Pull the wrong one and - BAM - you're dead.

It seems to me like a perfect God could come up with a better system.

So another one word for Christianity is:
Trust

I don't trust anyone who gives me "gifts" such as this supposed "gentleman" did. "I give you the gift of life, but note that I've already condemned you and, actually, you're born dead! Now, choose me if you want life, I'll defend you against myself, or else you'll die at my hands! BTW, you'll have to take all this on faith; you'll have to trust me though the gift of life I gave you turned out to be not all it was made out to be. I like it that way, and don't want to make things too easy for you. Oh, and I'm perfect, BTW, so my plan must be perfect though I won't tell you why. You'll just have to take that on faith, too."

King Rat

Longest one word description ever...

Light

REsponsible Love out of REspect for Creation and all of the people of this Creation.

The opposite being irREsponsibility.

RE-A-SON-ABLE people behave RE-sponsibly.

On the other hand, ir-RE-sponsible people are always raising Cain.

i.e. Making trouble, being lawless, etc.

Generally vandalising Creation.

What we are REally looking for is Eternal Life and Eternal Love as a closely bonded Male-Female pair according to the Isis-Osiris, Shu-Tefnut model.

This is what is REpresented by the ORiginal Trinity where OR stands for golden.

Atum, Shu, Tefnut, being the First Three Aspects of the Great Ennead of Creation deified as The Council of Nine.

God is counted as number 10 as He is The Father Creator, known as Ptah. Pater in Latin, or Father.

The ORiginal Trinity of Atum, Shu Tefnut REpresent the basic building system of Creation. In this ORiginal Trinity, Atum REpresents an atom.

Shu-Tefnut REpresent two atoms joined as a molecule but also REpresent Male and Female in a Marriage bond.

What God hath joined together, let NOT man put asunder, nor satan nor any evil.

This applies equally to the atom, especially where atomic bombs are concerned.

Atomic science does have some Aspects which can be beneficial to mankind, but atomic bombs are, obviously, not one of them.

See your nearest Local Council Angel for more information.





And don't forget, You know Who, The Secret of Shhhhh

Silence is Golden .......

robtech

Fullness

Queen of Swords

Yes, christianity is full of it.

Jedi Mind Trick

Wow Mageth!
You’re good at word wrestling!
Truly Impressive…
You have me sounding slightly less coherent than our good poster “Light.�?
It seems the English language or my lack at using it effectively has made me a victim of its wiles.

But all the niceties aside –such as “God’s a good guy really he is�?- the "faith-fact" is that we were made for him and for his purposes faith calls this a gift but unbelief or absence of belief feels put upon and insulted.

To the Greek –or the wise- Christianity or rather the Gospel is truly:
Foolishness

And I humbly accept that I am a fool.