CubicGate

I don't know why you didn't see anything in the cemetary - they are usually very active. Have you studied magik at all?? I found that magik and spiritual training really opened up the world around me. I can see things I never thought possible. A good book to start with is:

"Modern Magik" by Donald Michael Kraig

After I read this book is when I really started to understand what the spirit realm is about. Not everything in it is correct. But it's a good place to start. My friends mom gave me her old copy, but I think you can still get it in a book store. :-)

CubicGate

I can understand why you would be skeptical of alot of the stuff you described. But can skepticism really explain all your experiences? It sounds to me like you might be naturally sensitive. Maybe some of those things were imagined, but maybe some of them were real too!

You said you were into psychics and the paranormal for a while. Did you study magik in any form?? I would really love to know exactly what you studied! Maybe we could trade notes! :-)

You said that you have felt like someone was holding you down when you were asleep. I have felt that too! But its more like a force I can't see that is paralyzing me. It feels really evil sometimes. I have found that if I do the LBRP before bed that I am usually OK. I think the force is probably caused by latent magikal energy.

I never had any dealings with UFO's/Aliens but I believe in them. Thank you for your post!

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Anunnaki

How come people never report seeing naked ghosts? I don`t understand how clothing enters the spirit world and it seems to me that IF people did see ghosts the ghosts would be naked.

Any thoughts on this?

Bible Humper

Hello again Cubicgate,

Are the manifestations often just before or just after sleep? It isn't quite dreaming, people often hallucinate at these times.

This vague perception seems to fit what I was talking about. If you could tell us about a few more of your experiences we could perhaps point you towards some information of the mind that is particularly relevant.

Hehe

There is no need to be skeptical of our skepticism, I for one would much prefer the universe to have a dash of magic and a sprinkle of whimsy, but alas it isn't possible to believe something just because we wish for it.

No offense taken.

When I find the article on dopamine and it's effect on the brain, I'll post it for you.

If they manifested in front of me I wouldn't be skeptical anymore!

This seems to be a necessary rationalisation, is there any good reason that supernatural beings are afraid of those who don't believe in them?

I'm sure you have heard about how much our own wishes and desires have on our own perceptions, have you considered the possiblity that you are trying to perceive something?

If ghosts existed, there is no reason that they shouldn't appear to any of us, there should be just as much chance for the stereotypical skeptical scientist to find that his house is haunted as there is for a ghost believer. If ghosts existed, that is.

All supernatural manifestations seem to have these kinds of explanations. The christian reasons that the hindu doesn't perceive Jehovah because of his lake of faith, the hindu reasons the same for the christian not perceiving Vishnu. Both are convinced that the truth of their beliefs are "obvious'.

I was interested in the paranormal when I was young, and I believed that I had "the answers(tm)". As I matured though, I was able to examine myself with the benefit of wisdom and that was the end of that.

Once you remove the tendency to give the benefit of the doubt to extraordinary claims, you start to search for credible evidence, and this is the beginning of the end for supernatural/paranormal beliefs.

Your welcome, and thank you for respnding to me! Have fun on the boards and don't get too frustrated, we aren't always as aggressive as we might seem in a thread that seeks to "prove the paranormal/supernatural".

CubicGate

I looked at your psychic test and I am willing to try it! The best way I can figure out how to do this is to fly to your house when I am outside of my body. I have been experimenting with Astral Projection and it should be perfect for this. What I will need from you is a general description of where you live that will enable me to find your house from the air. Also you will need to put signs inside of your house that will guide me to the paper. I can't promise that I can do this, but I think it can work. Just give me flying directions and let me know when you are ready! :-)

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Bible Humper

Thank you, Annunaki, this is exactly the kind of thing that screams "ghosts are phenomena of the human subconscious!"

Like you said, it makes no sense for a spirit to be clothed, but most of the images of people floating around in our subconscious are, of course, clothed.

KnightWhoSaysNi

I think this thread would be more appropriate in the science/skepticism forum.

Bible Humper

<a href="http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992589" target="_blank">Here</a> is the article regarding dopamine and it's effects.

CubicGate

This is for you too, Anunnaki!

Well, the subconscious is one explaination! ;-)

I have learned that ghosts are the souls or spirits of people or animals (sometimes places but I don't fully understand this part yet) that are left behind and don't/can't enter the next world. It's all mental at that point. The ghosts appear as they think they sould look. If they were able to gather up enough will they could easily change their appearance I think - even appear naked if they wanted. But most ghosts aren't entirely aware of their situation so they just look like they think they are supposed to. If it were only the subconsious, how come there are never any cartoon ghosts? ;-) Just a thought!

CubicGate

Thanks for the article! Have the scientists considered the possibility that dopamine is one of the things that cause people to be psychically sensitive?? I will read the article and tell you what I think. Thanks again!