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Old 12-28-2002, 03:03 PM   #111
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For the record, as someone who meets the Neo-approved criteria, I think since the military is funded by tax money (and illegal arms sales) that everyone who pays taxes has a right to question the military and offer their opinions and have those opinions matter.

I also think that because people are human beings that they can offer their opinions and have them matter. No matter if they pay taxes or not.

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Old 12-28-2002, 04:45 PM   #112
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For the record, as someone who meets the Neo-approved criteria, I think since the military is funded by tax money (and illegal arms sales) that everyone who pays taxes has a right to question the military and offer their opinions and have those opinions matter.
Bad argument.
I'ld love to know what worth an unknowledgeable person's opinion is, for example, on whether a frigate or a battleship should be bought.

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Opinions are like bums; everyone has one, and sometimes they're quite unattractive.

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and have them matter.
Only if the opinion's well-informed, reasonably appropriate, and not whacko.
Only, IOW, if worthwhile.

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No matter if they pay taxes or not.
Paying taxes is generally recognised as conferring the right to have an opinion on how tax money is spent; it does not automatically mean your opinion is worth listening to.
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Old 12-28-2002, 04:51 PM   #113
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Everyone has an opinion and everyone's opinion matters.
To what extent it subjective, but I would never deny anyone's opinion has having some worth.

Sorry you don't agree with that Gurdur
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Old 12-28-2002, 05:08 PM   #114
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So, Neo:

Are you saying the "bandwagon effect" is OK?
Straw man...that is not what I said or even alluded to. I merely answered your question asking 'Why do people do that?'

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Do you participate in the bandwagon effect?
No, I do not.

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If you didn't participate, what do you think would happen to you?
Nothing because I simply wouldn't associate with those kinds of people that have to degrade others in such an immature and unprofessional fashion.

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Are you afraid of the consequences?
What consequences?

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(For whatever reason the 'new format' wasn't accepting my username or password. I even requeste a 'new' password and it wasn't taking that one either. So, I re-registered.)
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Old 12-28-2002, 05:46 PM   #115
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Everyone has an opinion
Often true.

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and everyone's opinion matters.
Wrong !

Out of extremely mild interest, tell me how much Fred Phelp's opinion on gays "matters", or Adolf Hitler's opinions on democracy "matter".

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To what extent it subjective,
So you can have a scale of worth ? You admit that ?
Yet you want to deny that the scale can have a zero at one end ?
heh.

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but I would never deny anyone's opinion has having some worth.
Unrealistic. Tell me, how much is Billy Graham's opinion on the finer points of aeronautical engineering worth ?

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Sorry you don't agree with that Gurdur
Don't worry. I can live with it.
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Old 12-28-2002, 05:57 PM   #116
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Gurdur, just what the heck is the point of your last post?

I am getting really tired of your spaghettied quote reply tactics. Its a waste of time and bandwidth for everyone here and creates unnecessary acrimony.
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Gurdur, just what the heck is the point of your last post?

I am getting really tired of your spaghettied quote reply tactics. Its a waste of time and bandwidth for everyone here and creates unnecessary acrimony.
Could you please explain this, "spaghettied quote reply tactics."

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Old 12-28-2002, 06:05 PM   #118
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Gurdur, just what the heck is the point of your last post?
The argument is on whether opinions have worth. Savvy ?
My last post was a further development on the theme, in answer to LiquidRage's points.

I'm quite prepared to take this further if needs be.

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I am getting really tired of your spaghettied quote reply tactics. Its a waste of time and bandwidth for everyone here and creates unnecessary acrimony.
Nonsense. That may be your personal taste, but taking each individual point in turn and answering it, and making clear who says what by good formatting, is IMHO simple politeness and taking care.

I'm quite prepared to take this further if needs be.

Oh, and clarify if your opinion is meant to be a mod's or your own private opinion.
Have you received any complaints about multiple quoting from anyone else, for example ?

Or is this just something personal of yours ? hmmm ?
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taking each individual point in turn and answering it, and making clear who says what by good formatting, is IMHO simple politeness and taking care.
I'd call it being thorough.

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Old 12-28-2002, 06:09 PM   #120
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Could you
Could or Would?
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Ok, At least you are being polite about it
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explain this,
I am quite sure its quite self evident
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"spaghettied quote reply tactics."
Spagettied as in making it very hard to reply back because your original post has been hopelessly mangled and chopped into bits. Its a bullying tacting IMO.
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