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Ab_Normal · 03-11-2003, 04:24 PM

...sorry to irk you, c-o-a-s... guess we can be irked together.

lpetrich · 03-11-2003, 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by Talulah
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1.) It could happen to them. I believe that all Christians have doubts about whether God is really out there and if he really listening. They are terrified to let those doubts out of the dark hole they have pushed them in. ...

That may be true in many cases, but there are some people who have actual visions of God and Jesus Christ and the Virgin Mary and so forth. I think that it's pure hallucination, but some people do offer that kind of "evidence".

Also, I'm reminded of how many people do not seem seriously convinced of the existence of an afterlife; there aren't many people whose last words are

"See you in heaven."

Talulah · 03-11-2003, 06:52 PM

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That may be true in many cases, but there are some people who have actual visions of God and Jesus Christ and the Virgin Mary and so forth. I think that it's pure hallucination, but some people do offer that kind of "evidence".

Well, I have visions of hamburgers when I am hungry but I don't worship the Food Goddess or think there is Pie in the Sky.

JEST2ASK · 03-11-2003, 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by Talulah
Well, I have visions of hamburgers when I am hungry but I don't worship the Food Goddess or think there is Pie in the Sky.

Damn another fantasy lost .... I guess actually have to go the grocery store .....

christ-on-a-stick · 03-12-2003, 02:11 PM

*bump* for davidH, to keep it visible in case he decides to address this most pressing question.

christ-on-a-stick · 03-13-2003, 02:26 PM

... *bump* for davidH.

Yooooooo hoooooooooooo.........

davidH · 03-13-2003, 02:48 PM

Sorry, this is doing my nut! My internet explorer shut down and I lost my whole reply! computers......

Anyway, to start again...Sorry for not seeing this until I was told by a private message (thanks for sending it or I wouldn't have known about it).

I'll keep this short because I know the internet explorer will shut down again soon!

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For many years, you have no idea how earnestly I sought God... prayed and read the Bible DAILY, went to church several times a week, read all the Xian literature I could find and on top of all that, spent countless nights praying, begging, crying & pleading for God to make himself real to me.

Vain protestations to an empty sky.

As you might imagine, there is almost nothing more insulting than being told "you weren't REALLY seeking" (as I have been by family members) when the aching pain of wanting desperately to feel God - and getting only stone silence - is still fresh in my mind.

I'll ask a Question here;

What were you expecting to happen so that you would know that God was real?

What were u looking for that you never got from God to make him real for you?

Please answer this in all seriousness - whatever it was you were sure that you never got it - so I just wondered what it was that you were waiting for to happen.

JEST2ASK · 03-13-2003, 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by christ-on-a-stick
... *bump* for davidH.

Yooooooo hoooooooooooo.........

I see your Bump and raise you one ...

Ok I am bored and only have a few minutes .....

yet I do wonder why with all the Theists currently posting ... None have responded even if it was directed to David ...

It doesn't seem to stop anyone else from adding their $0.02

Edited to add ......Of course David posted just before I submitted mine .......

WWSD · 03-13-2003, 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by davidH

What were you expecting to happen so that you would know that God was real?
What were u looking for that you never got from God to make him real for you?

Please answer this in all seriousness - whatever it was you were sure that you never got it - so I just wondered what it was that you were waiting for to happen.

Anything. Anything at all. Maybe a warm feeling of not being alone, maybe a revelation, maybe a vision. Anything would do.

All I got was wind. Wind and pollen and nothing else. Is that god's way of communicating?

lpetrich · 03-13-2003, 03:05 PM

(CoaS describing her efforts to get the Xian God to manifest himself to her...)

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Originally posted by davidH
What were you expecting to happen so that you would know that God was real?

What were u looking for that you never got from God to make him real for you?

Please answer this in all seriousness - whatever it was you were sure that you never got it - so I just wondered what it was that you were waiting for to happen.

My guess is that it's something like a deep voice coming out of the sky -- some sort of unmistakable manifestation that would be hard to call a hallucination.

And something that offers clear feedback, like "Well done, CoaS. You have been a faithful worshipper of Me, and I think that you deserve some help." And then some money rains down from the sky.

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