Hubrys Polymetis

That is my point. I don't necessarily want to say that seltbelt laws are bad. My point is that the state patrol are setting up these roadblocks to catch other offenses than lack of seltbelt use. But they are mascarading this evil practice under the guise of 'seltbelt safety.'

Grad Student Humanist

Well I disagree with you. I, not the government or anyone else, decide how I will live my life and when and how I choose to end it. If I wanted to be a jackass and risk my life by not wearing a seatbelt (or by doing heroin, or jumping out of planes, or racing cars on the Nascar circuit, or by eating nothing but pizza and cake), it's my decision, not the government's and not some busybody who thinks they know best how to conduct my life.

I could care less why people decide not to wear seatbelts. It's a stupid choice, but so is voting Republican, going to church and binge drinking. It's none of my concern as long as people are only harming themselves.

Already in this country we have groups of people trying to regulate personal behavior for other people's own good. Like I said, where does one draw the line. It starts with the government deciding that some drugs are bad and are thus illegal (for our own good). Then they decide that people have to wear seatblets or helmets, again for their own good. Once the precedent is established allowing the government or advocacy groups to decide what's best for individuals where do you think it's going to stop?

a8o

Are you taking the piss? I almost can't tell.

Rusting Car Bumper

First, step? Where the heck have you been? They've been doing that since before you were born.

DC

Rusting Car Bumper

So let me get this straight. There is a kid recklessly driving a stolen car and a seatbelt campaign paid for by tax dollars is really going to change this state of affairs?

The issue here is should FEDERAL tax dollars be dealing with something so seemingly trivial or something that is should be left up to the states.

Not speaking to you specifically, but there is an is-to-ought sort of mentality which accompanies these things. "Seatbelts save lives and thus we *ought* to have a federal campaign mandating them."

Your comments about holocaust denial and young earth creationists are more applicable to people who simply don't understand reasoning in general which includes the attitude that "if X would be a better state of affairs for the public then the government should then enforce X."

DC

vixenell

Perhaps if they were more forthcoming with their true intentions:

Click it or raise taxes

I don't believe that they're trying to protect us from ourselves and eachother somuch as protecting themselves and our courts from lawsuits resulting from it.

I think that it should ultimately be the decision of adult drivers and passengers (not children) whether or not to wear seatbelts. However, any injury caused by the accident, if it was the fault of the other driver, should be the responsibility of the person not wearing the seatbelt.