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Old 12-14-2002, 05:35 AM   #131
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<strong>Where is Vanna White when you need her?</strong>
lol.. I give up.
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Old 12-14-2002, 07:09 AM   #132
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lol.. I give up.</strong>
Please don't. This is absolutely hilarious.

Seraphim,

Why do you pit 'western' culture against 'eastern' culture?

Please find the meaning of 'pit against' here,

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pit against

Set in direct opposition or competition, as in The civil war pitted brother against brother. This idiom alludes to setting fighting cocks or dogs against one another in a pit. [Mid-1700s]



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I don't spend a lot of time either reading or typing, I spend most of it on observing and understanding what I see, then revalue it from what I know, make new assumptions and match it to those principles I know , &lt;snip&gt;
emphasis mine

What are these principles?

ALSO,

Please, could you tell me which is your favourite Sherlock Holmes story?

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Old 12-14-2002, 12:26 PM   #133
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[Oops, I have no idea how this post ended up here.]

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Old 12-14-2002, 12:47 PM   #134
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A possessed person could have no history of having histerical fit or an epilestical fits throughtout his or her life ... again, I speak of myself and another lady friend who I know of.
Are you saying you had a big histerical/epilestical fit but you don't remember?
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"I'm glad you are not a part of the medical field. Status Epilepticus is incompatible with life. Even if a person only has one seizure in their lifetime, your medical records should state "Hx of seizures". No ghosts, goblins, demons, or trolls under the bridge required.

If people are barking and growling like a dog, I would suggest a mental health professional.

BTW, if you are going to continue posting so much, try to learn a little of this UBB code. "

My reply : And did they add "Hx of Seizures" in your medical records also after your family accuse of been possessed?

I think I understand now why they did it though. No matter how nice I tried to explain to you that you weren't possessed because of lack of all criteria of a possession case, you still behave like one ... have such idea of possessed become part of your attitude now?


"Why do you pit 'western' culture against 'eastern' culture?"

My reply : Who is pitting against any culture? While I know what is Eastern culture is, I have no idea what you are talking about when you said Western culture ... unless you are talking about Rock music, hip-pop trend etc. In that case, pitting an Eastern culture against such "culture" is an insult to the Eastern culture itself.


"emphasis mine
What are these principles?
ALSO,
Please, could you tell me which is your favourite Sherlock Holmes story?"

My reply : Principle means things that I know and continue to add to my knowledge, including medicine, science etc. This is I considered principles which then I use to compare with surrounding world and make new data with I then compare again and again with data I receive from outside source (such as books, Net, TV etc) and those which I learn.

Not sure whether I have a favorite story in Sherlock Holmes. I remember all of them and understood what the author meant when he spoke of in his stories.

By Mad Kally

"Are you saying you had a big histerical /epilestical fit but you don't remember? "

My reply : I'm saying that I have lost consciousness for some odd reason and remembering waking up a couple of time before falling back to sleep. As for histerical/epilestical fit, I never had such thing in that description since I never had it then or now. In physical aspect, I'm fit as there can be.
 
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One of many many options to choose from ...

<a href="http://www.sadsuk.org/syncope.htm" target="_blank">http://www.sadsuk.org/syncope.htm</a>

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WHAT CAUSES SUDDEN LOSS OF CONSCIOUSNESS?

The arrhythmia's cause loss of consciousness by interfering with the blood pumping function of the heart with the consequence that the blood flow to the vital organs, particularly the brain, is diminished or absent. When the brain is deprived of blood flow for more than a few seconds, loss of consciousness occurs. This form of loss of consciousness is referred to as syncope. Syncope can also occur when the blood pressure falls dramatically, again resulting in lack of blood flow to the brain. The common faint, known medically as a vasovagal event, is primarily due to a fall in blood pressure, usually accompanied by a slowing of the heart rate. Another common cause of loss of consciousness is a seizure. In seizure disorders, the blood flow to the brain and other organs is normal, but loss of consciousness occurs because of abnormal electrical discharges in the brain.
Or if that's just a bit too complicated ...

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Old 12-18-2002, 04:23 PM   #137
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One of many many options to choose from ...
<a href="http://www.sadsuk.org/syncope.htm" target="_blank">http://www.sadsuk.org/syncope.htm</a>

"SUDDEN LOSS OF CONSCIOUSNESS (SYNCOPE) AND SUDDEN DEATH IN CHILDREN - The Emerging Importance of the Long QT Syndrome

These events are usually due to a disturbance of the heart's electrical system, causing an abnormality of the heart beating or rhythm, called an arrhythmia. ... Unfortunately, many times the condition is unsuspected and, therefore, not treated, with a tragic sudden death the outcome. Particularly, a condition known as The Long QT Syndrome (LQTS) is being recognised as a common cause of these loss of consciousness and sudden death episodes, it is often not recognised prior to a sudden death."

My reply : abnormality of the heart? I don't remember feeling any sudden increase or decrease in my heart rate at the time, just sudden lost of consciousness.
Here, it says that LQTS if not been treated will eventually bring death ... so as you can see, I'm still alive and I had no problem being athlete in later years.


"WHAT CAUSES SUDDEN LOSS OF CONSCIOUSNESS?

The arrhythmia's cause loss of consciousness by interfering with the blood pumping function of the heart with the consequence that the blood flow to the vital organs, particularly the brain, is diminished or absent. When the brain is deprived of blood flow for more than a few seconds, loss of consciousness occurs. This form of loss of consciousness is referred to as syncope. Syncope can also occur when the blood pressure falls dramatically, again resulting in lack of blood flow to the brain. The common faint, known medically as a vasovagal event, is primarily due to a fall in blood pressure, usually accompanied by a slowing of the heart rate. Another common cause of loss of consciousness is a seizure. In seizure disorders, the blood flow to the brain and other organs is normal, but loss of consciousness occurs because of abnormal electrical discharges in the brain."

My reply : Acceptable. Unfortunately, as I said before, I only had such experience ONCE and that was when I was about 8 years old.

"WHAT ARE THE COMMON CAUSES OF ARRHYTHMIAS AND CARDIAC SYNCOPE IN CHILDREN?

Almost any heart disease can cause arrhythmia's and syncope. Structural (anatomic) heart disease such as congenital (present at birth) disorders, like a narrowed or leaking heart valve, a hole in the heart (septal defects), or more severe malformations, or rheumatic heart disease which affects the heart valves and muscle, are well known examples. Most of the time these conditions are not manifest by sudden loss of consciousness, but by shortness of breath or fatigue, or by physical exam findings detected by the physician."

My reply : So the fault is at the makeover of the heart? Unfortunately, my heart is quite healthy and beats in regular speed. I went to medicial check up a few times and donated blood about half a dozen times, in neither cases, the doctors who examined me found anything abnormal about my heart.

"Of more concern are inherited diseases which principally affect the heart electrical system, such as LQTS, and the heart muscle, such as hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. The LQTS is particularly of concern because there are no physical abnormalities to detect, only a subtle electrical disturbance. "

My reply : Heart disease is not part of my family inheritage. Only one person had that sickness - my elder sister and that is due to her overeating.

"WHEN SHOULD A LIFE THREATENING CARDIAC PROBLEM BE SUSPECTED?

Fainting (vasovagal) episodes and seizures must be separated from cardiac arrhythmia's, for while they are important they do not commonly lead to sudden cardiac death. A vasovagal event is most often precipitated by obvious factors such as pain, nausea, seeing blood, or other unpleasant stimuli."

My reply : I fainted about 10 times in the last ten years, twice for lack of blood after a donation (I got up too fast), twice due medication (I was sick to being with) and a few time in a KO (sparring match where the opponents body parts met with mine in an unfortunate clash). Other than that, there is no fainting or seizures of any kind.

"The individual becomes dizzy, warm and sweaty, has blurred vision, and usually has time to sit or lie down which might lessen the symptoms or prevent the loss of consciousness. Seizures, on the other hand, usually have no obvious precipitating factors, have no preceding symptoms other than occasionally a strange feeling of various types and are associated with movement of the extremities such as stiffening of the muscles and/or body then shaking, and often with tongue biting and loss of urine or bowel control. The event may last around a few seconds to a minute or more, and the person is confused, disoriented and often lethargic for some time after the event."

My reply : Haven't had such experiences, except maybe for fainting.

"In contrast the syncope of life threatening cardiac arrhythmia's is sudden, usually without warning, often occurs during exercise, and is accompanied by gasping or absence of breathing, the absence of a pulse, and in some cases by cyanosis or turning blue. Usually the loss of consciousness lasts from one to several minutes and in some cases requires resuscitation (CPR). The difference in presentation usually allow the conditions to be correctly separated, although some cases are confusing."

My reply : Such things didn't happen to me. I had fainted TWICE during a Martial arts training but that was due to giving blood a few days before and from lack of stamina once. I end up throwing up!


"FAMILY HISTORY

Because these cardiac conditions are often inherited, a family history of syncope in relatives or unexplained sudden cardiac death in young persons may be present, and should be inquired about. The absence of family history of these events, however, does not exclude these diseases."

My reply : As I said before, no one in my family have such sickness as far as I remember, only my elder sister have heart problem due to her diet.
 
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What?
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<strong>What?</strong>
Trust me, you don't want to know. Drop the thread and slowly back away. You'll be saner for it.
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He's ba...ack.
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