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Old 03-20-2003, 08:55 AM   #41
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This is an illogical homily. My intuition is different than your intuition. Therefore, the intuition of one of us is wrong therefore intuition has let one of us down.
Now there is an argument for relativism!

Do you think it would be smart for salmon to try and follow the flight path of the Canada goose? Yet they are all part of the universal mind which itself has no particular identity (or religions would have killed it).
 
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Malia5--pure mystical nonsense; wishful thinking.

You have offered nothing but claims utterly unsupported by a single shred of independently verifiable, non-contradictory evidence.

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Old 03-20-2003, 09:20 AM   #43
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Dear John Page.

1) The frequencies, wavelengths, are to do with the hologramatic constructions of the different dimensional ''worlds''. Not 3D science.

2) The method of access is by the tuning into the cognitive/objective thought flow, which is everyone's connection to their higher self and true self.

3) The ''hundreth monkey phenomena'' refers to the simultaneous receipt of an ''idea'' in several places separated by great distances.

4) Science does not understand these processes, we do, and they are aspects of the universal mind, the ''soup'' of energy we all ''swim'' in, the connective tissue of the universe.

5) Ask us what dreams are.

6) Your understanding of ''reality'', used to be ours. We now know that it is far greater than that.
Einstein was considered delusional for his ''visions'' that he subsequently saw vindicated. The earth was once flat. you know.
We beg to differ, the brain is the holographic product of the true self mind. See, 3D understanding is 180 degrees out.
We would suggest you check out quantum MW theory, its quite interesting.
The 3D ''little'' self mind, can be delusional, not so the higher self cognitive/objective ''mind''.
Reality, is a product of the particular dimensional world you happen to inhabit. It is subject to the rules of that holographic construction. The true reality, resides with your true self.

Your intuition is always true for you, as it is the guidence given to you by your higher self to guide you through your contracted life, to enable you to complete your contract and in so doing, gives you the ''Best Possible Outcome Life'', the best choices, the best causes and effects.

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Lets be sure to understand that pain is an illusion.
I don't know Amos. Every day I step in a freezing cold shower and repeat to myself: 'pain is just an illusion'

... but it's still bloody freezing!

But really, what I call pain is really a feeling that precedes pleasure. I recall a spell of hideous food poisoning, with burning stomach pains. On the day that I had no pains I made a cajun chicken sandwich and ate a cream bun afterwards. Let me tell you, that was a FINE meal.

Even though physically, there are different mechanisms for pain and pleasure (sensitisation and habituation) the main variables for the experience of pain are time and stimulus intensity. This might get through: If you put a frog in a pan of hot water it will jump out (stimulus intensity) If you put a frog in cool water and slowly heat it up, the frog will boil (time)

so why would pain be an illusion, except in the sense that time fools us?

Oh, malai, this G.O.D. thing: did your contacts tell the meaning of GOD? If so, do they speak English? If not, did you come up with Gift Of Design yourself?

Wouldn't the bridge between hundreds of dimensions to 3-D be a bit like teaching a chimp to play chess?

H: "LOOK! queen moves forwards, sideways AND diagonally!"

C: "OOHH! OOH AAA aaaa, aaaAA!"
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Dear jpbrooks.

The reductionist approach and the holistic are not really mutually exclusive, as long as, as you seem to understand, they are used where they are most applicable. We seek micro and macro information and know that all things are more than the sum of their parts. The bigger picture view (holistic) needs to be adopted to give the correct perspective by which to use or not to use reductionism.

And "reductionistic" stances are useful for correcting errors that result from the misapplication of "holistic" perspectives. Again, both "reductionism" and "holism" are useful perspectives (from a methodological standpoint) in testing philosophical claims.

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It's a really BIG picture we are being exposed to.

And the "BIG picture" is a "unity" of diverse aspects of things, each of which can be the focus of some "reductionistic" view.

I'm out of time. I'll be back later.
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I don't know Amos. Every day I step in a freezing cold shower and repeat to myself: 'pain is just an illussion"


In that case, why don't you just shower twice a week at which time you might then say: "oh my God, it was so good it even hurt!"

Did you know that under hypnosis a painless childbirth is possible? If that is true why can't we do a [more] permanent subjugation of this same pain-conscious little mind of ours? Yeah, why not and shower twice a day afterwards with no pain!
 
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1) The frequencies, wavelengths, are to do with the hologramatic constructions of the different dimensional ''worlds''. Not 3D science.
Holograms are 3D images. You're not making sense.
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2) The method of access is by the tuning into the cognitive/objective thought flow, which is everyone's connection to their higher self and true self.
How do you measure or detect this thought flow?
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3) The ''hundreth monkey phenomena'' refers to the simultaneous receipt of an ''idea'' in several places separated by great distances.
Try using the word "broadcasting".
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4) Science does not understand these processes, we do, and they are aspects of the universal mind, the ''soup'' of energy we all ''swim'' in, the connective tissue of the universe.
No you don't, you just made them up.
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5) Ask us what dreams are.
No.
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6) Your understanding of ''reality'', used to be ours. We now know that it is far greater than that.
Einstein was considered delusional for his ''visions'' that he subsequently saw vindicated. The earth was once flat. you know.
We beg to differ, the brain is the holographic product of the true self mind. See, 3D understanding is 180 degrees out.
These are content free slogans.
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We would suggest you check out quantum MW theory, its quite interesting.
What does MW stand for and do you have any links to contribute? Why is it interesting?
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Reality, is a product of the particular dimensional world you happen to inhabit. It is subject to the rules of that holographic construction. The true reality, resides with your true self.
One's perception of reality is governed by the organs of such perception - eyes, ears, brain processes etc. What do you consider "false reality" to be? Why does reality need to be "true"? (Hint: The answer is a function of your perception).
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Your intuition is always true for you, as it is the guidence given to you by your higher self to guide you through your contracted life....
Contract?

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Malai5,

Tell me; have you spent a great deal of time tripping with the Orange people from up Byron Bay way?

...just wondering...
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In my professional opinion, Malai has gone one hit of acid over the line.
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What the frell?

Did someone spike the water around here?
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