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Tristan Scott · 12-18-2002, 04:50 AM

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The trivialisation (nay the Hollywoodisation) of 'love' (as in relationship love) seems to have fogged people's judgements. Love is not mysterious, love does not conquer all, love is not a drug though lust may be, love is not like oxygen at all, yada yada yada.

I would agree that many of us confuse lust with love. someone earlier in the thread noted that we don't "fall in love." I agree, but we do fall in lust. The problem with many relationships is that when the lust goes away there is no love left behind.

Love may not be mysterious, but it is sometimes complex. We could say that love is the condition that exists when one person's feelings are dependent on anothers, but I think it is much more.

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And if someone here believes 'God is love' would they kindly have the decency to tell us exactly what they mean by that statement, bearing in mind this is a philosophy forum, not a Mariah Carey lyric writing competition.

I believe that god is similar to love. Both are human inventions. To the lover, love seems to be immortal, but we all know that it is not. To the lover, love seems to be omnipotent: love conquers all; but we know that in the end it doesn't. To the lover, love seems omniscient: love has no bounds; yet we find that there are limits to our love, and our ability to forgive those we love.

From an atheists point of view, I see many similarities between god and love.

Philosoft · 12-18-2002, 07:52 AM

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Originally posted by Tristan Scott:
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I believe that god is similar to love. Both are human inventions. To the lover, love seems to be immortal, but we all know that it is not. To the lover, love seems to be omnipotent: love conquers all; but we know that in the end it doesn't. To the lover, love seems omniscient: love has no bounds; yet we find that there are limits to our love, and our ability to forgive those we love.
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Very well said.

Beoran · 12-18-2002, 09:19 AM

Tristan Scott, thank you for rephrasing the ideas I mentioned before in such an interesting way. I fully agree with you. However, I still contend that between love and god, love is the greater human invention, because it is much more useful.

Rousseau_CHN · 12-28-2002, 07:21 AM

Is it better to have lost at love than to have never loved at all?

What an easy question!

Let me answer by saying: Guts.

Darth Dane · 12-28-2002, 07:32 AM

And whoof the love left someone...

Since I now cannot speak of not having experienced that which I equate with Love, I will speak of Love.

Once experienced, it leaves you wondering if there is more. Can I experience it again, it felt marvelous and exciting.

Since most of us experience some love from our mother and father, when we grow up, although it is a bit untangible, we want to have it again and in greater force, we want to find someone to share love with.

Now I have been searching for Love.

DD - Love Spliff

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12-18-2002, 09:19 AM	#83
Beoran Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 75	Tristan Scott, thank you for rephrasing the ideas I mentioned before in such an interesting way. I fully agree with you. However, I still contend that between love and god, love is the greater human invention, because it is much more useful.

12-28-2002, 07:21 AM	#84
Rousseau_CHN Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Nowhere Land Posts: 441	Is it better to have lost at love than to have never loved at all? What an easy question! Let me answer by saying: Guts.

12-28-2002, 07:32 AM	#85
Darth Dane Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Required Posts: 2,349	And whoof the love left someone... Since I now cannot speak of not having experienced that which I equate with Love, I will speak of Love. Once experienced, it leaves you wondering if there is more. Can I experience it again, it felt marvelous and exciting. Since most of us experience some love from our mother and father, when we grow up, although it is a bit untangible, we want to have it again and in greater force, we want to find someone to share love with. Now I have been searching for Love. DD - Love Spliff

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