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Old 06-15-2003, 11:05 PM   #51
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Old 06-15-2003, 11:39 PM   #52
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No, I don't think you "retain .....off the top of [your] head" much of anything at all: that's why you screwed up the number of arterial wounds
Partial response (plus most of the obscenities): For f*ck's sake, leonarde, let it go. All of this was settled in that thread over a year ago! Give it a rest!

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MORE: you invent stuff on one thread for one purpose


I added up the possible arterial wounds, based in part on your evidence, in order to argue blood loss as a likely cause of death. If you're going to attempt more character assasination, at least get the facts straight!

Meacham's evidence said there were 30 head wounds and that they showed signs of being arterial or venal. I added in the four likely arterial wrist and feet wounds and totaled it to be a possible 34 arterial wounds to deal with and what that would mean to a body hanging on a cross; that that much blood pouring out would most likely mean the person on the shroud (if it were a real person) would have died of blood loss.

That's it! No great conspiracy! No desperate attempt to prove there were 34 actual arterial wounds, just a supposition based on the totality of the evidence presented regarding the number of alleged wounds on the shroud-figure's head in combination with the four wrist and feet wounds. It wasn't even an argument unto itself! It was a summation of how many wounds this alleged shroud-man would have had hanging on the cross (and, presumably, Jesus by extension of your argument). Your evidence mentioned they could be arterial head wounds!

So, ok, we've got 30 head wounds that could be arterial and four wrist and feet wounds that would most assuredly be arterial, that makes at least 34 possibly arterial head wounds, which in turn (get ready for the argument I was making), which in turn would mean the person most probably died of blood loss! That was my argument and it was deflated almost immediately, by Ash'ahm when he pointed out that your own evidence was incorrect in that head wounds would most likely not be arterial due to the nature of the veins in the head!

ALL OF WHICH WAS DEALT WITH IN THAT THREAD A YEAR AGO! GET OVER IT!

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MORE: deny that you invented it (blaming it all on Meacham who never claimed any such thing)
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I didn't blame it on anybody! I referenced your source; what Meacham had written. That he, in turn, had based what he had written (not quoted mind you, as we've already established) on somebody else is entirely irrelevant to anything.

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MORE: then more than a year later completely forget the exact number you invented.
Yes, believe it or not, leonarde, I haven't been obsessing over you or a thread I participated in about a phony shroud over a year ago. Until you posted in the WMD thread (and brought all of this ancient history bullshite up again), I haven't given that thread two shits worth of my time.

I'm sorry if that collapses your little fantasy world there.

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MORE: I DO think you may consult the 18 pager from time to time (at least when there's another Shroud of Turin thread underway) for otherwise the congruities I already mentioned between the remarks about "background" are not easily explained.
YES THEY ARE. I DIDN'T MAKE THE REFERENCE.

Get it through your dense little skull. I have not posted anything in either of these threads (or any threads on this board) under a sockpuppet! Never have and never will. Why would I? I already have a "sockpuppet;" it's my screen name--Koyaanisqatsi!

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MORE: I myself have linked that 18 pager to just about every S of Turin thread since. Not so much for the "dialogue" as for the links.
And, apparently, IMO, for some sort of bizarre, delusional, masochistic fantasy world, wherein we're still engaged in that thread (which, surprise, surprise, has now become your own sick, self-fulfilling prophecy).

The last post I ever addressed anything to you in that I recall was the WMD's thread, where you first brought up this older thread bullshite.

I do not have another account here and I have categorically never, ever posted anything on this board (or any other) under any other name than "Koyaanisqatsi" and I never will. Is that perfectly clear now?

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This thread definitely berlongs in the Humor Section. I just quit the Graveyard Of The Gods board because of an abusive crazy.

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I find it hilarious that anyone would think Koy needs a sockpuppet! He shoots from the hip, he does his homework, wysiwyg, etc. Not the kind of poster who I would attribute the need for a sockpuppet, at all.

I made a post earlier stating "leonarde rules!" - am I leonarde's sockpuppet? What a joke!
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I added up the possible arterial wounds, based in part on your evidence
Yes, you added up the possible arterial wounds, conveniently leaving out the word (and the concept of) "possible", misattributed this to Meacham (when he was merely adducing various studies by forensic pathologists over the decades), then concocted a quotation of your own device which you attributed to Meacham. I would very much like to "give it a rest" since we went over this in some detail here: http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.p...310#post979310 . But this willingness to "give it a rest" is, on your part, apparently strictly rhetorical.

Note to Lunachick: apparently being a "sockpuppet" isn't your true metier: a sockpuppet is supposed to agree unreservedly with his/her "puppetmaster" (in this case: me) not claim contentiously that he is wrong about Koy's multiple identities.

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Note to Lunachick: apparently being a "sockpuppet" isn't your true metier: a sockpuppet is supposed to agree unreservedly with his/her "puppetmaster" (in this case: me) not claim contentiously that he is wrong about Koy's multiple identities.
When you've finished with your barrage of false accusations, Leonarde, let's sit down and consider the facts:

1) the identity of sockpuppet was a sockpuppet of MadKally's; and BTW, sockpuppet has been banned from this board, as has MadKally, and one other sockpuppet of heres (infidelgirl).

2) You, Leonarde, routinely accuse others of having sockpuppets or being sockpuppets; a case in point is the fact you accused me (Gurdur) of being a sockpuppet or using other sockpuppets, when like Koyaanisqatsi, I've never had a sockpuppet.

These tiresome and false allegations of yours are simply off-topic false ad hominem's.

So how about dropping the nonsense and sticking to the points of thread topics, if you can ?
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So far you (unless you used someone else's name) haven't said one word about the Shroud of Turin on this thread and I have.

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So far you (unless you used someone else's name) haven't said one word about the Shroud of Turin on this thread and I have.
So ?
I've merely pointed out you should stick to the topic (the threadbare shroud) and stop wasting all our time with tiresome and false accusations and insinuations.

You see anything wrong in that ?
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