Calzaer

I thought "hydrophobia" was another name for rabies.

Fr.Andrew

scigirl--
A#1 post. Thank you!

Mediancat

It is.

I think perhaps the point was that the church hierarchy et al, if they still insist that "homophobia" means exclusively "fear of homosexuals" based on its etymology, that therefore hydrophobia would also mean exclusively "fear of water."

But it doesn't; "homophobia" doesn't; and nothing they do is going to change that.

Rob aka Mediancat

Groovy Cosmic Monkey

:notworthy Top post, scigirl!

TollHouse

scigirl, you may find it interesting that Senor is involved in an inter-racial marriage.

(Great post by the way)

Apocolips

Hola!

I stand by with everything that I have stated above.

My cites:

www.inoohr.org/homosexualstatistics.htm. This website shows interesting statistics of homosexual life, concerning disease rates, HIV infection, alcoholism, suicide rates, income rates plus other information. The sites quoted comes from sources such as Newsweek, Science magazine, The US Census Bureau, the San Francisco Sentinel and even gay publications like the Advocate.

http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/healthpro/aids/famous.html. This cite shows the famous people who have died a young death because of HIV. Except for Liberace, none of the people reached 60. Except for Amanda Blake and Elizebth Glaser, all were gay.

A wonderful website for gays is www.cruisingforsex.com This wonderful website shows people how to cruise for male sex. The website themselves claim that 1.5 million people view this site every month.

Of course, there is www.nambla.com which is a pedophile site that teaches homosexuals how to seduce and rape boys as young as 8. "Sex before 8 or its too late!"

Comparing human beings to Sumatran monkies is an insult to any person who reads this. Orangatangs also throw their feces and swing in trees, is this something that humans do? This line of thinking places human beings on the same line as an animal. The gay agenda wants us to believe this. I have seen animals and insects kill their young. Is this acceptable for humans? No.

I'll be back.

SENOR

Groovy Cosmic Monkey

senor boogie woogie,

Interesting, since you've been decisively refuted many times already.

Why do you think homosexuals have higher suicide and depression rates than heterosexuals? Probably because of bigots like you who continue to persecute and oppress them. Try being gay bashed, insulted and degraded because of your attempt at a loving relationship and then see how emotionally healthy you are.

Big deal. There are more heterosexuals in prison than homosexuals - does this show that heterosexuality is immoral? Since it's more than possible to have safe gay sex, this argument is ridiculous.

I can't believe you're using this as a serious argument. Want me to find some perverted straight sites on the Internet? There's more than enough.

This is downright offensive. All homosexuals are paedophiles? Gimme a break.

Comparing decent homosexuals to paedophiles is similarly an insult to any person who reads this. And scigirl wasn't comparing humans to monkeys in the sense you claim - she was simply refuting your claim that homosexuality is unnatural.

Ah yes, because it's been well established that gay people are universally part of an evil conspiracy to undermine and subvert any semblance of morality left in society. There is no monolithic "gay agenda", so stop speaking in mindless stereotypes.

scigirl

(then he cites some weird websites that my browser won't even let me click on because I dial up through a university and they have a fire wall)

So fucking what? I can find web sites that advocate murdering black people and they quote the bible. Note - the web sites that I cited were actual research studies published by peer-reviewed journals.

You did not refute any of my points whatsoever. You say "you'll be back" well I hope you actually bring an argument with you this time.

scigirl

scigirl

Is that your idea of a rebuttal? You did not address even ONE of my counter-arguments.

HTTP 404 error -page not found.

No it didn't show shit. It was a faulty web site, try again.

And like I said earlier - I didn't realize that we now defined morality as how long you live. Let me re-quote what I said since you apparently didn't read my post. "I wasn’t aware that we started rating the morality of people based on their median death age. By your own rationale, women are better than men because they live longer. And people who have devastating diseases such as cystic fibrosis or muscular dystrophy are really immoral because they die at a very young age."

Do you have a rebuttal (that isn't a porn site?)
Once again, a 404 error. Wow your sources are excellent. :banghead:

Oh wow you singled out some people who died early because of HIV. I could do the same with straight people, or with people who had sickle cell anemia, or cancer.

So you think that because gay people die earlier, that gives us the right to discriminate and not allow them to marry? I fail to see your (ill)logic here.

Oh my fucking god, you are using this as an argument? Christ. There are 100,000 porn sites for straight people too, and they have nothing to do with the healthy relationship I currently have with my boyfriend.

Did you even read my post? Actual SCIENTIFIC STUDIES, not PORN SITES. Gay people are not more likely to be pedophiles. Yes there are pedophiles, and they are sick. What does this have to do with consenting adults who want to get married? Absolultely fucking nothing.

Oh great another porn site. Sorry but I don't click on porn sites. Can't stand the million pop-up ads.

If you believe that porn sites are the best way to glean knowledge about how all humans are - well you are sadly mistaken. Me personally - I don't have big tits, bleached-blond hair, or a pierced clit. But you might assume so, if you apply porn site stats to all females.

Um actually I did not compare humans to anything, I simply pointed out that homosexuality was indeed natural, when you said it wasn't.

scigirl

EDITED TO ADD: Does anyone else think it's extremely ironic that the "pillar of righteousness" senor here tried to rebut my argument with 2 broken links and 2 porn sites? Who's the sick mother fucka in this situation, huh? At least my links worked, and were published in legitimate scientific journals. It really makes me wonder - what kind of people are up late worrying about where people's penises have been, surfing pedophile porn sites for "research" purposes. I woudn't let these people anywhere near my (hypothetical) children. My gay guy friends however - I'd let them babysit in a heartbeat.

Pain Paien

I'm sure Orangutans would also be insulted (if they had the necessary faculties) being compared to monkeys, as they are apes. Similarly, were they able to comprehend, they might also be righteously indignant with a comparison to humanity. Hell, I'm insulted that we're both members of humanity after reading your puerile drivel. Orangutans can at least hold the dignity of being an altogether more peaceful species than ours, and, with your posts as evidence, they're not too far behind some of our species in rational capacities.

Since you make a distinction between humans and animals, I'll just say that if it's reasoning or morality that separates us from them, you're not helping that case with your regurgitations.

I gather from your comment about the "gay agenda" that you are another person who ascribes to ridiculous conspiracy theories about homosexuals. I'll attempt to correct you on this matter, in case it was just a misunderstanding: there is no "gay agenda". Homosexuals are individual human beings, and as such they do not all share the same goals with one another, just as is true for the rest of humanity. They are not mounting a campaign to rule the world, they are not monitoring your thoughts from satellites, and they do not eat babies. Homosexuals as a group do not have secret motives or hidden agendas, they simply are not attracted to the opposite sex. I hope this clarifies, as it seems you were thinking homosexuals were a cult of the damned or something.

As for your insinuations that homosexuals are pedophiles, I think that ridiculous myth has been sufficiently debunked (in this thread and everywhere else where rationality is valued over bigotry) that it needn't be examined further.