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Old 07-31-2003, 10:03 PM   #171
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Red face OK, deal with it, Dark Cobra

Obviously you have decided that your only option is to live alone forever. You still need to "deal" with this attraction emotion. Here's what I suggest -

Make as much $ as you can until you are done with your formal education. Isolate yourself (as much as is possible) during this time to minimize your exposure to "the unwashed masses".

When you think that you have cultivated sufficient education from the system available to you, then sever all ties to the outside world and purchase property somewhere in a desolate wasteland where you can live in peace. Build a fortress with all the comforts you deem necessary for existance. Make sure you have access to a communication system so you can still access everything that's required for sustaining your needs.

I believe that there might be some areas in Montana that are available for this project. Anyone remember Ted Kazynski(sp)?

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If you were intelligent, you would know that.
Dark Cobra,

Many people have been very patient with your rapid-fire dismissal of their supportive thoughts and advice of all sorts. It is not appropriate to return this kindness with insults. Please do not abuse the thoughtfulness of other IIDB users with remarks such as the one quoted above (which is just an example of many I found as this thread has progressed.)

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Old 08-01-2003, 06:47 AM   #173
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Some people have only come in here to prove me wrong, nevermind their reasoning is shaky.

Fine, I think we can all agree on one fact: I will never fall in love. Whether it's my personality (some of you have been exaggerating it a lot!) or whatever, I will not fall in love with someone.

Let's get back to the original question... how do I deal with it (make it stop)?
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Old 08-01-2003, 08:41 AM   #174
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Fine, I think we can all agree on one fact: I will never fall in love. Whether it's my personality (some of you have been exaggerating it a lot!) or whatever, I will not fall in love with someone.
I think so far, everybody's been trying to tell you to quit being an angsty teen and just live life. Sure, you probably won't fall in love anytime soon. (Or maybe you will) Is that the same as "never"? No.

As for making physical desires stop, you could castrate yourself. That's the only thing I can think of that would stop it at the biochemical level.
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Old 08-01-2003, 08:52 AM   #175
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I sit around and observe people when I have nothing to do. I do not like what I see-- "that, like, oh my gawd, he is, like, so hot"! way of talking, the same types of clothes, same interest in music... they are all the same with slight variations.
You know, at some point, you are just gonna hate being alone. I know I did. I thought of myself as intelligent and above the rest, alhtough I never acted arrogant (I hope), I just became a loner.

I don't know how much you're gonna like what I'm gonna say: there is more to people then inteligence. I'm not saying to lose all your standards, just don't label a person so quickly, and on external appearance and behaviour.

The day I stopped dreamin' of the atheist-logical minded book-reading classical-music-fan idealist-romantic standard sillyness (who had to be pretty good-lookin too) was the day I met a person who wasn't Einstein, but sincere and funny, who wasn't an atheist, but an apathetic one (with slight deistic flavour), who didn't particularly like classical music, but at least had heard some.
It ain't serious, but it works like charm on your attitude, and grunchiness.

We are social animals. Socialise. I was such an introverted person that I couldn't even hold a conversation. I felt savage.
just because i wear teh same clothes and have similar interest in music with the majority makes me an idiot? Try using that rationalism a bit.






Second point.
Thinking yourself as intelligent while the rest are idiots doesn't show too much maturity. You generalise and label people exactly like the theists you despise.
I tried to behave very normal just to fit, slightly. Yet my IQ is above average and I read more literature than my hole class.
Thinking yourself intelligent is dangerous. You get too lost in awe to yourself. Maybe you should try to cultivate other qualities that are not innate.


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I have experienced enough in life to "know" what I want in regards to a romantic relationship. It's silly and meaningless to question otherwise. What I want very well can change, but it can change during the course of my entire life so there is no true "more informed" decision in regard to this.

Honestly, do you think I will ever want to go out with a christian, an irrational atheist, a wiccan...? If you think that's likely, you're probably an idiot! No, if anything my desires will get more specific and it will be even less likely to find someone to "fall in love" with.

People don't fit categories so well.
It isn't, on one side, atheist and the rest of the idiots - christians wiccan etc. Some very intelligent people (from the few available) I know are theists. Maybe they are theists only for comfort, who can call them idiots if they can't sleep at night otherwise, others have been raised that way, and just live their lives the way they want to, and dont' even bother thinking about God. One is a very convinced theist, yet is the most mature and wise person I've met.

My (fellow sixteen year old intelligent skeptic girl) advice: Don't imagine that what you know now is enough to make up your mind. Just because you (think you) are intelligent doesn't mean you can't be wrong.
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My (fellow sixteen year old intelligent skeptic girl) advice: Don't imagine that what you know now is enough to make up your mind. Just because you (think you) are intelligent doesn't mean you can't be wrong.
Hey, look, pwnage from the well-adjusted, intelligent, classical-liking, intellectual, SKEPTIC 16-year-old girl.

Who's got the pie on his face now? :boohoo:
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On what she said: consider that some of what most people wear is worn just for comfort. "Most People" do not wear Abercrombie or American Eagle or those other 'youth designer' clothes�although they might have a few articles because they like them. Music: some of them might only listen to 'popular' music to fit in (but neither pay attention now know who any of the 'artists' are), some might actually like some popular music, and then of course there are the occasional pop-culture drones. (Fun way to get those people angry: say that Backstreet Boys is better than N'Sync, or vice versa)

Popular != Retarded. Even RAP (oh noes!) isn't all bad, just most of it.

Breathing air is popular. Drinking bottled water is popular, if slightly retarded. Classical music is, unless I'm badly mistaken, FAR more popular (in terms of listenership) than 'popular' music.

As most of us have said many times (and as you have dismissed many times ), quit rejecting things based on generalizations, because you'll just miss out on teenage life. (Trust me, come end of high school, you start feeling old, Real Fast�)
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Some people have only come in here to prove me wrong, nevermind their reasoning is shaky.

Fine, I think we can all agree on one fact: I will never fall in love. Whether it's my personality (some of you have been exaggerating it a lot!) or whatever, I will not fall in love with someone.

Let's get back to the original question... how do I deal with it (make it stop)?
physically? seek employment in the eunuch field.

otherwise, look man, the reason people here have been trying to convince you that you are looking at things the wrong way, and convince you its possible to find someone, to fall in love, is because its going to be near fucking impossible to make it stop. its a natural human emotion, and its probably not going to stop. we are social animals, we are empathetic in nature, its fucking natural. i think the general concensus here is that you cant make it stop. so we offered you advice on how to deal with it in a way that doesnt go against human nature.

you say you will never fall in love. and you are right. if you keep telling yourself you wont, and you avoid social contact, and you refuse to get to know people, you will never have a chance to. if you try and fail, at least you can say you tried. if you dont try, then it really will be your fault.
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I will not allow myself to fall in love with someone to who does fit ,my criteria.

You see, I debate over the internet a lot, and I get quit inflamed while doing so. I simply CANNOT allow myself to fall in love with someone who is not a match, the relationship would be unstable and I will become angry at them for their ignorance.

If someone is a theist then somewhere in them the logic, rationality, and scientific method is absent. They may develop it later, but until then...

I have, in fact, been attracted to females before, or at least started to. I would never have been able to get into any kind of relationship with them for multiple reasons-- social differences, intellectual differences, etc. I find that what you people are advocating the most, whether you realize it or not, is to fall in love strictly on physical appearance and how nice they appear to be. Ugh. Nothing wrong with being nice, but... even "nice" people are many of those against equal rights for homosexual, for example, and I'll not stand it.

Never, in a million years, will I allow myself to fall in love for a theist, deist, or irrational atheist.

Whether it is my fault or not, I am attracted to rationality and intelligence, and that's just too great of an expectation.
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Hey, look, pwnage from the well-adjusted, intelligent, classical-liking, intellectual, SKEPTIC 16-year-old girl.

Who's got the pie on his face now? :boohoo:
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On what she said: consider that some of what most people wear is worn just for comfort. "Most People" do not wear Abercrombie or American Eagle or those other 'youth designer' clothes?although they might have a few articles because they like them. Music: some of them might only listen to 'popular' music to fit in (but neither pay attention now know who any of the 'artists' are), some might actually like some popular music, and then of course there are the occasional pop-culture drones. (Fun way to get those people angry: say that Backstreet Boys is better than N'Sync, or vice versa)

Popular != Retarded. Even RAP (oh noes!) isn't all bad, just most of it.

Breathing air is popular. Drinking bottled water is popular, if slightly retarded. Classical music is, unless I'm badly mistaken, FAR more popular (in terms of listenership) than 'popular' music.

As most of us have said many times (and as you have dismissed many times ), quit rejecting things based on generalizations, because you'll just miss out on teenage life. (Trust me, come end of high school, you start feeling old, Real Fast?)

It's not popularity, it's what kind of people are drawn to it and what kind of devotion they have to it. And from what I've seen, sex "is for the pretty and charismatic", nevermind it's natural. It's still optional.


So, I'm missing out on teenage life? Isn't that like missing out on getting shot or missing out on getting a cancer?
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I will not allow myself to fall in love with someone to who does fit ,my criteria.

You see, I debate over the internet a lot, and I get quit inflamed while doing so. I simply CANNOT allow myself to fall in love with someone who is not a match, the relationship would be unstable and I will become angry at them for their ignorance.

If someone is a theist then somewhere in them the logic, rationality, and scientific method is absent. They may develop it later, but until then...

I have, in fact, been attracted to females before, or at least started to. I would never have been able to get into any kind of relationship with them for multiple reasons-- social differences, intellectual differences, etc. I find that what you people are advocating the most, whether you realize it or not, is to fall in love strictly on physical appearance and how nice they appear to be. Ugh. Nothing wrong with being nice, but... even "nice" people are many of those against equal rights for homosexual, for example, and I'll not stand it.

Never, in a million years, will I allow myself to fall in love for a theist, deist, or irrational atheist.

Whether it is my fault or not, I am attracted to rationality and intelligence, and that's just too great of an expectation.
So go after someone of intelligence. It's not as much of an expectation as you think, b/c guess what, for every skeptic guy, there are .8 skeptic females. So it may be more difficult, but not that much. The girls are looking too, and you will find each other.

As for dealing with an attraction to pretty girls who are stupid, um...make love to your hand?
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