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A Pumpkin Drifter · 04-07-2003, 09:19 PM

I am just a wee teenager in all this political drama and would like to know what you folks think is the most objective and honest news network, if there is one?

The criticism i hear for CNN is that they are the "Clinton News Network" or the common one I hear from my Republican family is that they are too "liberal".

The criticism I hear for Faux (I mean fox) news is that they are way too ummm conservative? I don't really like them anyways except for getting a kick out of hearing Bill O'Reilly be a total asshole. I hate how when they invite people on the show it just turns into a shouting match. Plus half their rebuttles are "Just go read my book, Page 33." yeah yeah yeah.

So what do you guys like to get your info from? I've heard something about BBC and Sky news but I don't get BBC (Think they show it on the PBS channel sometimes, not sure though). Do their websites post all the news their TV shows show?

Thanks.

Soyin Milka · 04-07-2003, 11:21 PM

Hm.

The News Hour with Jim Lehrer seemed a good source of information, but I haven't watched it for a while. It used to be on Vermont's PBS, with the BBC news.

Maybe you can watch "The National" on C-Span (In the morning I believe). It's a news show produced by the canadian national television channel (Funded by government). It's to the left of center on the politcal spectrum. People are very civilised during interviews. Main Drawback is you'll get news about Canada's politics, and that can be boring

Anyway, that's the two suggestions I have to make for the moment. If you speak other languages than english, then I could make a couple better suggestions.
Good luck!

Soyin

elwoodblues · 04-07-2003, 11:23 PM

Honestly? If I'm not doing research on a specific subject, I get most of my broad 'news network' information from The Daily Show on Comedy Central.

echidna · 04-08-2003, 01:42 AM

What you're really after is a network which provides a range of views which enables you to form your own opinion rather than swallowing someone else's story. Better yet is one which airs good debates between informed moderates. Not like Fox's parodies where non-conservatives are often portrayed by lunatic extremists, but programs where both sides of an argument can be rationally spelt out in front of a neutral arbitrator.

In fact to be informed, it's near impossible to even get all this from just one network. Comparative media studies is a fascinating activity, and if you follow a single story through different newspapers & a range of television reports, you'll be amazed at the range of emphasis, omissions & outright differences in facts which are brazenly broadcast to a welcoming public as "truth".

A shame you don't have access to BBC. I generally find it one of the better ones, but in the end don't take anything as gospel.

York · 04-08-2003, 02:03 AM

im in canada and find cbc to be real good. Although cnn does take a bashing for its style i have given it a chance and was surprised to see what it had to say. they had a rep from "al jesira" and an american news media type. the debate about how al jesira use to strong a language was very nicelt and respectively discussed by both side. i enjoyed it very much. i spelled al jesira way off sorry.

i also got to see soldiers home video which i found real amusing considering they must be shitting bricks on the iraqi side yet make home videos on the american side. thoughts of pre-emptive ness and being on the defensive really swirled around my mind looking at this kind of video. also the detailed tactics of how the enemy is hunted and killed was very interesting if not appalling to me. none the less i was enlightened.

YHWH666 · 04-15-2003, 09:22 AM

CBN!

Mark · 04-15-2003, 09:38 AM

I watch BBC most of the time, but when online I sometimes look at Al-Jazeera. So I get both sides of the story in a way.

Monkeybot · 04-15-2003, 11:01 AM

BBC News Online

Alonzo Fyfe · 04-15-2003, 11:02 AM

Google (the internet site) now has a "news" page. This is a conglomeration of a huge number of news sources -- effectively a search engine of news sites (Hmmm . . . google . . . search engine . . . go figure). There, I am likely to find a large number of options to choose from.

spurly · 04-15-2003, 01:42 PM

MSNBC and Fox News on television.
ABC news on the radio.

Kevin

04-07-2003, 09:19 PM	#1
A Pumpkin Drifter Regular Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 233	Which News Newtorks do you get your info from? I am just a wee teenager in all this political drama and would like to know what you folks think is the most objective and honest news network, if there is one? The criticism i hear for CNN is that they are the "Clinton News Network" or the common one I hear from my Republican family is that they are too "liberal". The criticism I hear for Faux (I mean fox) news is that they are way too ummm conservative? I don't really like them anyways except for getting a kick out of hearing Bill O'Reilly be a total asshole. I hate how when they invite people on the show it just turns into a shouting match. Plus half their rebuttles are "Just go read my book, Page 33." yeah yeah yeah. So what do you guys like to get your info from? I've heard something about BBC and Sky news but I don't get BBC (Think they show it on the PBS channel sometimes, not sure though). Do their websites post all the news their TV shows show? Thanks.

04-15-2003, 11:01 AM	#8
Monkeybot Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: North Carolina Posts: 8,102	Re: Which News Newtorks do you get your info from? BBC News Online

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Soyin Milka Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Absurdistan Posts: 299	Hm. The News Hour with Jim Lehrer seemed a good source of information, but I haven't watched it for a while. It used to be on Vermont's PBS, with the BBC news. Maybe you can watch "The National" on C-Span (In the morning I believe). It's a news show produced by the canadian national television channel (Funded by government). It's to the left of center on the politcal spectrum. People are very civilised during interviews. Main Drawback is you'll get news about Canada's politics, and that can be boring Anyway, that's the two suggestions I have to make for the moment. If you speak other languages than english, then I could make a couple better suggestions. Good luck! Soyin

04-07-2003, 11:23 PM	#3
elwoodblues Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Dunmanifestin, Discworld Posts: 4,836	Honestly? If I'm not doing research on a specific subject, I get most of my broad 'news network' information from The Daily Show on Comedy Central.

04-08-2003, 01:42 AM	#4
echidna Veteran Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,832	What you're really after is a network which provides a range of views which enables you to form your own opinion rather than swallowing someone else's story. Better yet is one which airs good debates between informed moderates. Not like Fox's parodies where non-conservatives are often portrayed by lunatic extremists, but programs where both sides of an argument can be rationally spelt out in front of a neutral arbitrator. In fact to be informed, it's near impossible to even get all this from just one network. Comparative media studies is a fascinating activity, and if you follow a single story through different newspapers & a range of television reports, you'll be amazed at the range of emphasis, omissions & outright differences in facts which are brazenly broadcast to a welcoming public as "truth". A shame you don't have access to BBC. I generally find it one of the better ones, but in the end don't take anything as gospel.

04-08-2003, 02:03 AM	#5
York Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 140	im in canada and find cbc to be real good. Although cnn does take a bashing for its style i have given it a chance and was surprised to see what it had to say. they had a rep from "al jesira" and an american news media type. the debate about how al jesira use to strong a language was very nicelt and respectively discussed by both side. i enjoyed it very much. i spelled al jesira way off sorry. i also got to see soldiers home video which i found real amusing considering they must be shitting bricks on the iraqi side yet make home videos on the american side. thoughts of pre-emptive ness and being on the defensive really swirled around my mind looking at this kind of video. also the detailed tactics of how the enemy is hunted and killed was very interesting if not appalling to me. none the less i was enlightened.

04-15-2003, 09:22 AM	#6
YHWH666 Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: North America Posts: 457	CBN!

04-15-2003, 09:38 AM	#7
Mark Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,537	I watch BBC most of the time, but when online I sometimes look at Al-Jazeera. So I get both sides of the story in a way.

04-15-2003, 11:02 AM	#9
Alonzo Fyfe Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: 920B Milo Circle Lafayette, CO Posts: 3,515	Google (the internet site) now has a "news" page. This is a conglomeration of a huge number of news sources -- effectively a search engine of news sites (Hmmm . . . google . . . search engine . . . go figure). There, I am likely to find a large number of options to choose from.

04-15-2003, 01:42 PM	#10
spurly Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 710	MSNBC and Fox News on television. ABC news on the radio. Kevin

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