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Marduk · 03-10-2003, 03:13 PM

�I don't think marduck is claiming to make any Nostradamus-like prophecies here...�

Oh yes he is!

�I'm not a fan of George Bush. I didn't vote for him. However, the responsibility of quelling Islamic Fundies has fallen squarely into his lap. �

OK, I supported his efforts in Afghanistan to get the Taliban out & squash Al queda, so how does destroying the ONLY secular non-Muslim fundamentalist State in the Mid East going to help fight terrorism??

TollHouse · 03-10-2003, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Warwick
Liberals live in the world of fantasy and make-believe.

It's more like a nightmare where a spoiled child with a C-average becomes the most powerful man in the world.

I would love nothing more than for that to be only fantasy and make-believe...

Zar · 03-10-2003, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TollHouse
It's more like a nightmare where a spoiled child with a C-average becomes the most powerful man in the world.

I would love nothing more than for that to be only fantasy and make-believe...

Touche.

Colander of Truth · 03-10-2003, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Warwick
You would have lost more family if people, like my grandfather, did not fight in WWII and help end the Nazi plan to exterminate anyone who was Jewish.

I find war to be necessary in some circumstances.

Maybe he did lose his family because our president's grandfather was said to be involved in financing and supplying the Nazis, including their rise to power...

Zar · 03-10-2003, 10:40 PM

Lamma,

What can I say? I was addressing Martin Buber, not you. I could not avoid including those he was talking to in the point I made. I was talking about whether it was worthwhile to respond in kind to the perceived closed-mindedness and insults. If you read my post, you'd see that I wasn't necessarily encouraging that behavior from anyone. I also didn't think either you or Warwick were necessarily worse than others from differing persectives.

Also, I was thinking more of Warwick than you, frankly. Martin included your name in his response, but I wouldn't say you are like Warwick, so my post probably suffers from insufficient exactness. You are certainly opinionated as are most here, but that doesn't mean you are a "below the belt" fighter. Warwick is the guy who knows who all the liberal "fantasy land" people are and seems to categorically deny their points with that assumption.

So, again, I was talking to Martin. Perhaps I should have done it with a private mesage, but I felt if I were going to say something you should have an opportunity to see it.

RED DAVE · 03-15-2003, 07:52 PM

Good to be back, everyone.

Another week without war.

Bush abandons the UN.

How much longer before the madness starts?

Comments from the Right or Left?

RED DAVE

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03-10-2003, 03:13 PM	#31
Marduk Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: the 10th planet Posts: 5,065	�I don't think marduck is claiming to make any Nostradamus-like prophecies here...� Oh yes he is! �I'm not a fan of George Bush. I didn't vote for him. However, the responsibility of quelling Islamic Fundies has fallen squarely into his lap. � OK, I supported his efforts in Afghanistan to get the Taliban out & squash Al queda, so how does destroying the ONLY secular non-Muslim fundamentalist State in the Mid East going to help fight terrorism??

03-10-2003, 10:40 PM	#35
Zar Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Chicago, IL USA Posts: 3,477	Lamma, What can I say? I was addressing Martin Buber, not you. I could not avoid including those he was talking to in the point I made. I was talking about whether it was worthwhile to respond in kind to the perceived closed-mindedness and insults. If you read my post, you'd see that I wasn't necessarily encouraging that behavior from anyone. I also didn't think either you or Warwick were necessarily worse than others from differing persectives. Also, I was thinking more of Warwick than you, frankly. Martin included your name in his response, but I wouldn't say you are like Warwick, so my post probably suffers from insufficient exactness. You are certainly opinionated as are most here, but that doesn't mean you are a "below the belt" fighter. Warwick is the guy who knows who all the liberal "fantasy land" people are and seems to categorically deny their points with that assumption. So, again, I was talking to Martin. Perhaps I should have done it with a private mesage, but I felt if I were going to say something you should have an opportunity to see it.

03-15-2003, 07:52 PM	#36
RED DAVE Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 10,532	Good to be back, everyone. Another week without war. Bush abandons the UN. How much longer before the madness starts? Comments from the Right or Left? RED DAVE

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