Magus55

I'm not talking about the Poem, i said song. Beethoven composed the song Ode to Joy.

wildernesse

Magus,

The word "song" is not a very precise word. When you say someone wrote a song, you are not really distinguishing whether you are talking about the melody or the lyrics. In fact, the word song implies you mean the words more than the tune. Sing me a song!--implies words not notes.

--tibac

southernhybrid

Beethoven wrote the 9th Symphony which includes a choral part in the 4th movement which is based on Schiller's Ode to Joy. The 9th Symphony is hardly a song. Happy now, Magus!


The poem in the OP seems to be a parody of the Schiller poem so we have really strayed far from the intent of the OP by even including Beethoven in this discussion.


With apologies to Fiach for derailing his thread

HelenM

Actually it's not - look at my early post. I

Beethoven set Schiller's poem to music in his 9th symphony.

Later, a hymn was written that was set to Beethoven's music.

It's the later hymn that was parodied, not Schiller's poem.

Helen

Fiach

I really don't give a shite about Beethoven whom I can't stand. But I am curious if anyone here knows the name of the woman who wrote the poem I posted.

It is good, and I hate attributing it to anonymous.

Fiach

Vespertine

Say it once more Fiach! Really drive that sucker home!

philechat

Yup. Schiller's poem is even less Christian than the later hymn. The Paganism in the poem is very obvious and I think Schiller (and Beethoven) intended it so. Both the poet and the composer held pantheistic beliefs that were different from traditional theism.

worldling

http://www.jcnot4me.com/Items/spoofs...oyful%20Joyful

Courtesy of Google.

Looks like it was by a man called Nathan Merrit. The last verse is different here.

never been there

I met someone who was all p***ed because he'd agreed to sing Ode to Joy at a friend's wedding, and the (Lutheran) pastor required him to subsitute the theistic lyrics. Oh, well, what you do for friends.

Opera Nut

Hey FIACH!!

I think Ludwig is overrated (not Ludwig Spohr, the other guy..)

I like the 6th, 7th and 8th symphonies, and the rest of it is just too damn static -- too much vertical harmony and not enough horizontal melody.

So you have company. I don't think the 9th Symphony is all that Joyful in the first place, and it's TOO DAMN LONG!!!!

Oh well they called Schubert's Ninth, the "Great" C Major Symphony, the "Endless" C Major symphony. So Beethoven wasn't the only one with diarrhea of the pen on his 9th try!!


:boohoo: <----need to put it down so I don't wear out my body from playing those %$#@! long spieces!!!