Loren Pechtel

But you are trying to blame capitalism for the actions of a bunch of corrupt countries. In fact, the majority of countries of the world are corrupt. Just because they aren't communist doesn't mean they should be used as examples of capitalism.

beyelzu

you notice how all the commies gave up on this thread have given up on it.


I love the smell of facts in the morning


smells like victory over the communist.

Me and Me

Loren Pechtel

When Communists use that excuse it is considered not a valid one.

Beyelzu

What facts are you talking about?

Have you said anything about Communism or have you just said things about Communist countries? For people who claim to not like Communism you guys sure try to avoid talking about it, or do you even know anything about Communism?

emphryio

Beyelzu the point of a "thread" is to learn something, not to convert everyone to your way of thinking or continue endlessly until you do. (Which is pretty unlikely to ever happen considering the amount of dogma within the average person.)

I learned new things from this thread, and changed my position slightly as a result. Mainly I better understand now why only a perverted form of socialism can survive through the added security of an authoritarian dictatorship in view of the existence of imperialistic US policies.

I already knew the history of US imperialism and attempted to give the info to others. (Nobody probably even bothered to read the links I gave being to busy to share their own great wisdom to actually attempt to learn something.)

How about you, Beyelzu, did you learn anything at all beyond some fantasy confirmation of your intelligence?

beyelzu

yeah, i learned that america is evil, I am going to go burn a flag after I shit on it tomorrow.

Oh, wait I dont buy into the communist dogma.

Hal9000 wanted to know why communism always failed. The communists came and said that it didnt. Then they argued that its all america's fault. Then they argued that america was evil and imperalistic, ignoring that communist nations have also been evil and imperalistic, and then they let the thread drop because they have only rhetoric and damnations of america on their side because communism does indeed always fail.

I also like your whole point about communism restricts freedom in response to america, no proof, but why bother when youve got rhetoric.

emphryio

In some ways it apparently didn't. I thank Moon for providing that info.

Yes, that's correct concerning democratically elected socialist governments. As we learned from reading the links and can learn more if we buy and read the book recommended, the US did indeed destroy all such governments.

I think we learned that they are no true democratic socialist states so there isn't too much imperialism by these non-existing entities to ignore. Also from the books and links suggested you can find that imperialism from communist dictatorships pales in comparison to US imperialism.

BTW, did I mention US imperialism destroyed ALL democratically elected socialist states.

In every post I have seen of yours, Beyelzu, in the politics section. You have already made up your mind completely on whatever subject being discussed. Apparently you come here only to bestow your wisdom to the rest of us. I certainly appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedule to do so.

(wince) Gee Beyelzu, that's a flat out lie concerning me as anyone can see by reviewing the thread. Maybe you should edit that part out of your post?

If you do, let me know. I'll edit the offending quote out of my reply. (It's OK Beyelzu, nobody's perfect.)

Anyway,
So you basically learned nothing?

Too bad.

beyelzu

this is what you said in the post that I quoted. authoritarian dictatorships definitely restrict freedom, so how am I a liar. I also would like to point out that you ignored all evidence offered by people who werent pro communism.

so pot kettle black is whats going on here.

I also think that saying that no socialistic democracy's exist is kind of disingenious. After all we are talking about communism on this thread. I also think that calling a country state capitalist doesnt do away with the fact that they started out offering the same communist utopia that moon, me and me, and you seem to promote. I learned a great deal about the russia being supplied with allied weapons during ww2. I learned that the us destroyed even more people to combat communism. Something that I think is stupid because I dont think that communism works.

echidna

I learned that all I do is regurgitate bourgeois dogma.

beyelzu

thats because your mind is already made up and you can not learn anything just like me


but its not really your fault you have been brainwashed by the man.

Loren Pechtel

Originally posted by Me and Me
Loren Pechtel

When Communists use that excuse it is considered not a valid one.

May I suggest quoting?