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Jobar · 02-04-2003, 06:20 PM

A website that Trebbie will drool over.

If they have a resume list, I'm sure Trebax' carreer will take off like a rocket. Any mad scientist or evil dictator would just love to have him as head henchman.

Monkeybot · 02-04-2003, 06:23 PM

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Some beliefs are superior to other beliefs, inasmuch as some beliefs are more consistent with reality than other beliefs. The beliefs of Stalin are characteristic of such superior beliefs. Truth can and ought to be forced upon everyone.

You mean like "Truth" that was "discovered" by Lysenko? The one that involved the total rejection of Mendelian genetics?

Doubting Didymus · 02-04-2003, 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by Jobar
If they have a resume list, I'm sure Trebax' carreer will take off like a rocket. Any mad scientist or evil dictator would just love to have him as head henchman.

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I'm sure he'll do just as he's told, provided that said evil mastermind can convince him that it's 'natural'. (dont vorry, my little vir, itz pverfectly hockay! ah, ah,ah!)

Secular Pinoy · 02-05-2003, 03:00 AM

Huh? Totalitarianist is Trebbie? Why wasn't I informed at the last EAC bivouac? That's unacceptable! I would've never bothered reading this thread had I known. I'll send my complaint to the Evil Overlord.

openeyes · 02-05-2003, 08:28 AM

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Nothing is good as a moral guide, as indicated in More's philosophy. Besides, whereof there is discrepancy between the desires and (particularly sexual) impulses of mankind and womankind, thereof those of mankind shall prevail, as dictated by Nature and his patriarchal kingdom.

Huh?

Totalitarianist · 02-05-2003, 08:59 AM

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Hey there! References please! I have reason to believe that the case is quite the opposite.

I was just waiting for the invitation.

I shall herein quote a book called "Psychology: Fifth Edition" (1998), page 425, verbatim:

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. . . Humans are . . . dimorphic: On average, the human male is about 10 percent larger than the female. Recall that . . . sexual dimorphism is found in polygamous animals but is small or nonexistent in monogamous ones. This suggests that humans would have a tendency toward polygamy and, since we are mammals, that we would incline toward polygamy. As it turns out, most cultures do allow polygamy; only 16 percent of those studied require monogamous marital arrangements, with just one spouse to each partner (Ford and Beach).

So the percentage I gave was not correct, owing to the fact that I had only once skimmed through that section a few months ago. But the fact remains that there is no reason to believe that monogamy is more natural than polygamy.

Totalitarianist · 02-05-2003, 09:01 AM

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huh?

Actually, I do not actually believe that beliefs should not be forced upon people (it is wholly justified in many cases). I only said that to appease the majority of my readers. Using something people generally value to make a point.

Totalitarianist · 02-05-2003, 09:13 AM

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You mean like "Truth" that was "discovered" by Lysenko? The one that involved the total rejection of Mendelian genetics?

They did make a few mistakes; however, these so-called discrepancies between dialectical materialism, genetics, and the uncertainty theorem have been resolved, showing that such scientific discoveries are not only consistent with Marxism (and particularly dialectical materialism), but they in addition to that complement it. Many books on this subject have been written (e.g., Reason to Revolt by Ted Grant and Alan Woods).

Gurdur · 02-05-2003, 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by Totalitarianist

Actually, I do not actually believe that beliefs should not be forced upon people (it is wholly justified in many cases). I only said that to appease the majority of my readers. Using something people generally value to make a point.

IOW, if Totalitarianist says he believes something, he may not be telling the truth.

Caveat emptor.

Doubting Didymus · 02-05-2003, 02:56 PM

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I was just waiting for the invitation.

I shall herein quote a book called "Psychology: Fifth Edition" (1998), page 425, verbatim...

If its not too much to ask, could you reference the study cited in that text please?

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Jobar Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: secularcafe.org Posts: 9,525	A website that Trebbie will drool over. If they have a resume list, I'm sure Trebax' carreer will take off like a rocket. Any mad scientist or evil dictator would just love to have him as head henchman.

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Secular Pinoy Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Quezon City, Philippines Posts: 1,994	Huh? Totalitarianist is Trebbie? Why wasn't I informed at the last EAC bivouac? That's unacceptable! I would've never bothered reading this thread had I known. I'll send my complaint to the Evil Overlord.

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