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View Poll Results: The "afterlife" poll
When you are dead, that's it. Game over. 63 76.83%
When you are dead you will forget that you were ever born in the first place 13 15.85%
Reincarnation, because I can remember my past lives. 1 1.22%
You go to Heaven or Hell or where ever God sends you. 4 4.88%
You continue to exist in a parallel universe 4 4.88%
You exist on Earth in some ghostly spirit realm. 1 1.22%
Cryonics will save me 3 3.66%
Cloning will save me 0 0%
I am an agnostic on this topic 12 14.63%
I never give it much thought. 5 6.10%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
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Old 12-30-2002, 02:38 PM   #21
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What do you mean by a hight level. Do you really mean a complexity level?
The next sentence makes it clear that I meant "higher level."

1)At a fundamental level all brains are exactly the same, but the differences between two individuals occur at a hight level, so this is not a problem.

2)It is the difference between a computer running Linux and a computer running Windows 98 - at a fundamental level (such as the level of individual molecules) they are essentially identical, but at a higher level they are very different.

Now, where is this "huge hurdle" of yours?
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Gosh. A non-linear process? Amazing. Almost as if the brain was a parallel rather than a serial processor. Wow.
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Gosh. A non-linear process? Amazing. Almost as if the brain was a parallel rather than a serial processor. Wow.
I do not think the second question implies anything mystical but it is a much more bitter pill to swallow because it undermines the indentity and reality of life people are currently living.

If you forget that you have ever been born at all then all this philosophical reasoning will be all for nothing in the end.:banghead:
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Now, where is this "huge hurdle" of yours?
Since consciousness emerged out of non-linear processes I do consider it to be much of a hurdle
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Interesting poll. 28 votes on choice 1, such determination seems abit strange.
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Interesting poll. 28 votes on choice 1, such determination seems abit strange.
Yes it sounds suspiciously like someone has multiple user names.
Someone very determined to go through such lengths and has no better things to do.
The last 15 votes in particular were very very suspicious.
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Or maybe there are a lot of hardcore atheists on these boards.... nah...
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Or maybe there are a lot of hardcore atheists on these boards.... nah...
I used the option of a check box and not radio button, so even hard core athiests could of voted for both.
It is a hard cold fact you are going to forget that you were ever born in the first place, period

Who ever it is, it could well be somebody with irrational belief that some of their memories are still retained after they croak. I wonder!
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I find it fascinating that so many people are so enthralled with this question of what happens after death.

I am one of the 3 people (so far. but I won't expect it to progress much more on this board) who voted for "never gave it much thought."

I don't see what the point is of basing your entire belief system on something that cannot be proven one way or another. What happens after death? I don't know, and I won't know until I come to that point. Who knows if it's the ultimate end or otherwise? And why is it so important to solidify what you "believe" will happen after death? It's not like it has a real bearing on what death actually is. Whatever will happen will happen.

In my profile I wrote "agnostic" a while back. I think I meant "apathetic."

Much better to ponder life instead.
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I used the option of a check box and not radio button, so even hard core athiests could of voted for both.
Perhaps you should have said "please choose one or more of the following"... they would be used to voting for one choice even if check boxes were used.

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It is a hard cold fact you are going to forget that you were ever born in the first place, period....
For a person to forget something, they have to exist at that moment in time.

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When you are dead you will forget that you were ever born in the first place

A dead person has no consciousness (at least, according to me). I think forgetting is only meaningful if you are talking about a conscious person or at least an aware animal. I mean, for example, say a CD was used to store information and then you destroyed the information... did the CD "forget" it? I think that is like a dead person. In their brains is information that soon is lost. There is no person or animal there who has "forgotten" the information just like it sounds weird to say that a CD has "forgotten" information.

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Who ever it is, it could well be somebody with irrational belief that some of their memories are still retained after they croak. I wonder!
Much of the information in their brains would probably often exist for a while after their death but their brain can't access it anyway since it is dead. The brain hasn't "forgotten" the information... the brain is dead - it can't do anything.
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