dk

The Gay Rights Movement asserts gay men are disproportionately or systematically victimized by violent crime. My point is that all men are more vulnerable to violent crime, and statistically blacks perpetrate crime against blacks, whites against whites, and hispanics against hispanics. Seems probable that gay men are most often victimized by gay men. Do you have any statistics to support your allegations, or is homophobia a ruse to generate irrational fear within the gay community, and garner sympathy from the general public. Near as I can tell gays are by and large well educated upper middle class city dwellers. In fact I've never seen any evidence gays are systematically oppressed or victimized apart from masochistic norms celebrated in gay culture.

miss djax

i still don't get what you are saying. first, your quotation does nothing to dispel or address the idea that msm's are not gay or bi self identified.

secondly, by your own statistic, gay male youths are infecting each other....

where is your logical missing link that gay men are infecting the rest of the world?

miss djax

dk

So even as affluent, industrial nations deploy expensive therapies to cope with an infection that has struck a sliver of their populations, some of the world's most impoverished countries, where modern health facilities and practices are scarcely known, confront a virulent new epidemic. In parts of sub-Saharan Africa, the rate of infection in the general population is at least a hundred times the prevalence of HIV and AIDS in our own communities; for women and infants in the hardest-hit regions, the rate of infection is thousands, or even tens of thousands, of times higher. In some areas, nearly half of young adults are infected. The rate of infection has not yet peaked, but already in Zimbabwe and Botswana (the latter is among Africa's most economically successful nations, a regional leader in literacy and healthcare, and a country with little in the way of drug use), life expectancy at birth will be cut in half over the next 10 to 12 years, from perhaps 65 years down to about 33, solely as a result of this new AIDS epidemic. -- The New Aids Epidemic

This does not bode well for the US that after 20+ years has failed to muster the will to irradicate hiv/aids. Instead we've set up public school gay support programs that appear to have transported the bug to a new generation of gay proteges.

everlastingtongue

And so it would follow that most crimes against women are perpetrated by women, that most crimes against children are perpetrated by children, and that most crimes against the disabled are perpetrated by the disabled, correct?

By the way, here are the numbers for hate crimes committed against gays in the U.S.:
http://www.hrc.org/issues/hate_crime.../stats2001.asp

Keep in mind that this is only a total of hate crimes reported – as with any crime, there are bound to be more. And before you claim that all of these perpetrators must be gay as well, I’d like some proof.

brighid

That is because the US and the Catholic Church thwarts CONDOM distribution in Africa. It's not as if Africans are having more sex then Americans, Swedes, or the Europeans. However in most western countries we have availability of birth control, condoms, adequate sex education etc. You will also notice that the countries with the best sexual education systems and openness (and consequently larger openly gay populations) have the LOWEST HIV/AIDS infection rates (as well as lower unwanted pregnancy rates).

It is the pro-life politics that is responsible for the continued degredation of an impovershed, non-white, non-Christian population because they can't work their voodoo elsewhere. If you are worried about the spread of AIDS then I suggest you work toward figthing the simpletons that fight tooth and nail against proper sexual education and disease prevention! In turn you will also help prevent maternal and infant death rates (that are unconscionably high) as well as the needless suffering of countless million men, women and children as a direct result of those men and women skewing science for their "political" gain through biased studies and irresponsible "education."


Brighid

http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/journals/gr060101.html

dk

From what I've read there's no evidence that hiv/aids was present in any high risk population more than 50 years ago. Today the most virulent strain is HIV-1C (3rd World). We in the West appear to believe time is on our side, and new medications will keep pace with the evolving threat until a vaccine is discovered. Its probably not a good bet. I lost faith in the Gay Right Movement when gay men celebrated HAART treatments by taking off the gloves to infect a new generation of gay proteges. I personally am at loss to explain how this was allowed to happened.

everlastingtongue

The primary reason AIDS was not effectively dealt with initially in the U.S. is because it was considered a gay disease. The conservative political climate at the time led to basically ignoring the problem because gays weren’t really valued as much as “normal” people. Your continual assertion that HIV/AIDS is a gay problem would only send us back to this time in history, if everyone believed as you do, which certainly wouldn’t help matters.

Regarding the gay support programs, you assert that these increase the risks of AIDS. Do you have any data to support your claim? Do you really believe that these programs encourage unsafe sex or somehow create gay promiscuity that wouldn’t otherwise occur? If these programs didn’t exist, do you think that the gay students would be shamed into becoming straight?

dk

The US has invested into Planned Parenthood and SIECUS 20-30 $billion over the last 30years to make "Safe Sex". They failed and blame others. The more things change the more they stay the same. Losers can't help themselves, they always fail, and they always blame others.

dk

No, its because gays are loosers that blame others because they can't help themselves. Some things never change, loosers always fail, and always blame others.

everlastingtongue

What is a "looser"?