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Old 07-16-2003, 07:48 PM   #11
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I don't think the government organized 9/11 but I tend to think that they knew about it (in more or less detail) and let it happen because it was just too convenient for them. They might even have prodded a little. Also Bush sr was pretty high up in the CIA when they were training the terrorists in Afghanistan, although he does seem to be less of a psycho than jr.

If Bush had nothing to hide about 9/11 why would he first reject than impede 9/11 investigations and why would he try to appoint Kissinger head of the investigation - that is like openly saying he's covering sth up. And if openly saying he is covering sth up is better news than what he is covering up it must be quite substantial.
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In addition, the tape is rather conclusive, though al qaeda never took responsibility. You know the tape is good because the administration had to edit the tape to keep the Saudi Arabia information secret.
I don't think the tape is conclusive, when I was on vacation in Germany people were saying things to me like "what it's actually disputed if the tape was incorrectly translated over there" because german language experts had stated that the US translation put in several slight modifiers that made it seem like bin Laden knew but that were not audible and without which the tape was no indication of his involvement.
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I don't think the government organized 9/11 but I tend to think that they knew about it (in more or less detail) and let it happen because it was just too convenient for them.
That's as far as I'm willing to go, and I hate this president for making me think such a horrible thing. (That's right George. You're responsible for my thoughts. I know you can hear me.)
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That's as far as I'm willing to go, and I hate this president for making me think such a horrible thing.
That is what is bugging me, that I would even entertain the thought. Bush's credibility is so entirely shot for me now I can't believe a word he or his cronies say. Who made that quote about "We deserve the leaders we get," or something to that effect.

I really don't think we deserve Bush's B.S., or for that matter Clinton's B.S.. I'm sick of this.

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Old 07-17-2003, 09:36 AM   #15
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Remember. "The Democrats see blood in the water and are circling"


So just because you see a continuous stream of criticism of our President, etc. Don't believe everything you read. Of course, the liberals, will be writing articles after articles. They can't think of any other way to win the next election.

 
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Remember. "The Democrats see blood in the water and are circling"


So just because you see a continuous stream of criticism of our President, etc. Don't believe everything you read. Of course, the liberals, will be writing articles after articles. They can't think of any other way to win the next election.

Well we tried the old fashioned way of getting more votes than the other guy, but Bush had to use the courts to stop the vote from being completely counted in Florida. Then the USSC used ignorance of the 1960 election to come to their conclusion to support Bush.

So we are now trying other ways, such as exposing this Administration for what it really is. The "Say-Nothing" Administration.
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Remember. "The Democrats see blood in the water and are circling" So just because you see a continuous stream of criticism of our President, etc. Don't believe everything you read. Of course, the liberals, will be writing articles after articles. They can't think of any other way to win the next election.
I'm not sure what your post means. If Bush knew that the data was forged, and used it anyway in the SOTU that makes him a liar. So, AFAIAC the buck stops there. If he knowingly misled the country he deserves to lose the next election.

What does Bush's Folly have to do with the democrats?
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I am glad you raised this.

In October of 2001, the Taliban offered to turn Osama bin Laden over to Bush if he supplied evidence of OSB's involvement.

Bush showed not a scrap of evidence, but chose to bomb the Taliban.

Did he do this just to prove his cojones?

Did he not have any evidence?

Or what?

(Granted, Bush's devotion to the truth when citing "evidence" has since been shown to be nonexistent.)
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If he knowingly misled the country he deserves to lose the next election.
If Bush knew the information was false, that is an impeachable offense. He didn't lie about sexual relations, he lied to get troops to invade Iraq. He lied to start a war that has cost thousands of lives.
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I am glad you raised this.

In October of 2001, the Taliban offered to turn Osama bin Laden over to Bush if he supplied evidence of OSB's involvement.

Bush showed not a scrap of evidence, but chose to bomb the Taliban.
While at the time, I thought the offer was legit, I think it is becoming clear, Osama was no where to be found to be given up by the Taliban.
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