Sci_Fidelity

This has to be by far the stupidest argument I've ever heard.

You forgot about the unicorns, etc. in Aquila's post. If they didn't exist, we wouldn't be discussing them, right?

BTW- it's existence, not existance. Otherwise the past- tense would be existad and that would be just plain nutty.

Ronin

Well, we're in deep milk duds now!

I ate Pascal's Wafer

Doesn't matter. If they didn't exist, then we wouldn't be talking about them, right? That was your argument for the existence of your deity, so when we apply it to other entities which we talk about then we must conclude that they also exist, or that the argument is flawed.

Which is it?

-Nick

paul30

It seems to me before you can begin such a discussion, you have to define what you mean by god.

lpetrich

malookiemaloo:
The main philosophical argument for the existance of a deity is, in my view, if God did not exist we would never mention Him.

A view almost too silly to be worth commenting on.

As far as I can see from the Sec. Web, the main pro-atheist argument is that God does not regulary make grandiose appearances on planet earth once a week or so.

And is that supposed to be impossibly difficult for an allegedly omnipotent being? And why is some alleged entity that hides all the time supposed to be worthy of worship?

orac

Let me see if I understand you correctly.

You believe in Yahweh, Zeus, Apollo, Shiva, Vishnu, Buddah, Yoda, Athena, Bob, Eris, Satan, Square Circles, Jupiter, Unicorns, Voldemort, and thousands of other such beings?

They're all things that have been mentioned and discussed frequently.

According to you this is proof that they exist.

Would you care to retract your comment, or am I correct in assuming you believe all of the things listed above are real?

Given that you've claimed to believe that Zeus is a genuine God with an existance that is just as real as Jesus, can you explain why you don't worship him? Or do you worship him?

Still, if nothing else, your main reason to believe in God is incredibly weak - you don't even claim that there's actual observable evidence for his existance. This is quite impressive, and shows the true validity of your God better than anything I could have come up with.

Pyrrho

If you wait for someone to come up with a decent definition of "god", you'll never have the discussion at all. See:

Anyone, how vague is god?

Opera Nut

You need to back up and read Freud, Jung, Joseph Campbell, and guys like that. Find out the definitions of ritual, myth, symbol, sign, worship, god, spirituality, primitive religion, and religion.

malookiemaloo

Yes, I suppose you are right now that I think about it!!

Sorry about the spelling.


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Sci_Fidelity

Great. Now how about responding to the arguments.