Abacus

Of course. So why did you single out gay rights advocates with this thread? Why not instead start a thread titled "Attention, interracial marriage advocates" and then proceed to advise them to address Fr. Andrew's posts lest you conclude that they really approve of pedophilia?

yguy

Why shouldn't I?

Why should I?

Sorry for being just a bit flippant, but I've answered the question at least twice already, once in response to you. Nevertheless, I'll give it one more shot.

Tell me Dal, what sort of parades was NAMBLA accepted as a part of in the early 90's? The Macy's parade? The Rose parade? No, it was "Gay Pride" parades that saw fit to accept them.

Who was it who defended Allen Ginsberg when he was attacked for endorsing NAMBLA? Bill Buckley? Rush Limbaugh? No, it was Camille Paglia, a "conservative" open lesbian.

http://www.townhall.com/news/politic...0030611c.shtml

Psychiatrist Charles Moser of San Francisco's Institute for the Advanced Study of Human Sexuality and co-author Peggy Kleinplatz of the University of Ottawa presented conferees with a paper entitled "DSM-IV-TR and the Paraphilias: An Argument for Removal."

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"The situation of the paraphilias at present parallels that of homosexuality in the early 1970s. Without the support or political astuteness of those who fought for the removal of homosexuality, the paraphilias continue to be listed in the DSM," Moser and Kleinplatz wrote.

Why do you think these creeps are complaining that they lack support from homosexuals, rather than some other group? Because pedophilia advocacy is the ideological Frankensteinian brainchild of the "gay" rights movement.

Thus it is at least partly the fault of apologists for homosexuality that pedophiles ever felt empowered to tout their rottenness as something worthy of acceptance by society - And it's up to that movement to clean up its own mess, as far as I'm concerned.

yguy

Great. I look forward to seeing you direct some pointed questions at Fr. Andrew - or at least voicing your opposition to his thesis, if you haven't already.

Hedwig

I've actually never seen a NAMBLA float at a gay pride parade. And I've been going to them every year for many years.

yguy, you could have just as easily addressed all card carrying members of the ACLU instead.

Abacus

Nah. It's not necessary. Others are doing a fine enough job.

Besides, conversing with one nutter is more than enough for one day.

Viti

yguy...paraphilia is not only pedophilia. It could include any number of sexual deviations including most fetishes

Have you lost your mind? You are quoting sources about a possibly completely different topic.


Other paraphilias include:

algolagnia: sexual pleasure from pain
coprophilia: sexual attraction to feces
emetophilia: sexual attraction to vomit
fetishism: sexual attraction to a physical object, with common examples being
leather fetishism
spandex fetishism
fur fetishism
rubber fetishism
shoe fetishism
hybristophilia: sexual arousal by people who have committed crimes, in particular cruel or outrageous crimes
klismaphilia: sexual pleasure from enemas
pictophilia: inability to become sexually aroused except through the use of pictorial pornography
plushophilia: sexual attraction to stuffed toys
sadomasochism: taking sexual pleasure in inflicting pain, or having pain inflicted upon one's self. (See also "bondage and discipline" and algolagnia)
urolagnia: sexual attraction to urine
voyeurism: sexual arousal through watching others having sex

yguy

I'm supposed to find it reassuring that their desire to legitimize S&M is comparable to their desire to legitimize pedophilia??

BTW, the content at the link has changed since it was originally posted in the Homosexuality thread by dk, and some of what I've posted is no longer there, one of the directors of the symposium evidently having objected to parts of the article. However, I see no explicit repudiation of what I have posted from the original article.

Viti

The only people trying to legitimatize pedophilia are pedophiles. You have gone off the deep end yguy.

Even Fr. Andrew is NOT advocating pedophilia as far as I can see. He is stating that the overboard reaction by parents and therapists makes a bad situation 100 times worse because it makes the kids feel worse about the experience.

Are you this obtuse on purpose??

yguy

I'm afraid he's saying quite a bit more than that:

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.p...5&pagenumber=3

(Fr Andrew): If you define a child molester as an adult who has sex with a child, then I'd have to agree.
I don't agree that every instance of sexual contact between an adult and a child is molestation. Or abusive.

My response, which remains unanswered:

"And what precisely is the difference between such an instance which is abuse or molestation and one which is not?"

Viti

Well, I will let Fr. Andrew respond to that as that is not the same discussion you pointed us to in your opening post and I am only addressing that discussion.

You still haven't made your case for a correlation between homosexual rights and pedophilia...that bizarre connection is your own doing.