orpheus last chant

i do wonder if the remembering of dreams is the process htat makes them more lively....since frems can't be portraied as being a sort of interactive movie...
there is the fact that we have so many dreams, that they refer to possible situations or likely ones that it is merely probability that some do get to be replayed. my most vivid dream was a nightmare where i was in a plane, flying and the plane exploded. the horrible part was that i dreamt it in slown motion and saw the flames coming and felt pain and burning on my face. and i woke up shakeing and thinking i am going to die.....it was horrible. now the next day i went to france by plane....imagine
nothing happend (since i am no ghost with a internet connection)
and then i realised that much of that experience has to do with final destination a movie i saw.

maybe some dreams are the brain's way of puting you into a simulation...to prepare you for real situations.

i got this funny thought when, after my dog gave birth to 5 little doggies...even if they were some 30 min old they fell asleap and dreamt of running (remember they didn't know how to run) you could see them move their feet. animals only dream of instincts.
adn didn't you notice that our dreams are mostly eiter a life treatning nightmare, or some bizzare and confuse surreal type

Giorgia

You just reminded me, olc, of the reason I was first able to recognize the strangeness of those precognitive dreams: the scenes in these dreams were totally, boringly detailed, common-place events: no movie stars, no disasters, no visual or auditory distortions -- like I said, sort of like a documentary clip. This in stark contrast to my usual gung-ho, highly adventurous, swashbuckling dreams.

I remember waking up from these dreams, remembering them as clearly as though they were actual occurances, and wondering why I would dream something so utterly hum-drum, without having any connection to anything in my past. And I mean this literally: neither the people, nor the actions, nor the setting was remotely similar to any prior experience in my life. I can be quite certain of this, as the most stark examples of these dreams happened before I even moved to the city in which the dream took place -- ergo, there was no possible way I could have "populated" my dream with the very real people in them, as I had not met them in any way, shape, or form prior to dreaming about them.

Mecha_Dude

While we're on the topic of "weird shit"(TM), Is there a term for this: I saw a girl I know standing and talking to someone, then I walked into a classroom and she was already there.

How bout this:
I can bve thinking about a topic, any topic, and it'll just appear out of the blue then. On the forums, on TV, in the paper, It just appears.

Any names for these?
Like seraphim, the term "Multiverse" often comes to mind...

Jesse

Giorgia, when you find yourself in a situation that you remember dreaming about, have you ever tried doing something different than what you remember happening in the dream?

Also, you said you've dreamed about people you haven't met yet--did you recognize them as soon as you met them, or not until the moment of reliving the dream? If you recognized any of them earlier, did you ever tell one of these people about the details of the situation you saw in the dream beforehand?

Seraphim

by Giorgia

However, I became so uncomfortable with the implications of what others perceived to be my "psychic" abilities, that I trained myself to wake up if I started having "one of those" dreams. I haven't actually thought about this in well over a decade.

So you wake up everytime you have such dreams? Sounds like a waste of good talents to me ...

I'd attend to control my body (heart rate especially) when I have such dreams. I'd attend to stay in my dream state as long as possible by keeping myself as sleep as long as possible.

Oh yeah, I was experimenting with such dreams yesterday afternoon (yes, I had one yesterday) and I have notice a few things.

1. You attend to have such dreams IF you went to bed without any pressing thoughts. Good way is when you are mentally tired (like I always in) or after you had sex (haven't try this for a quite a long time ).

2. Lie on your back flat, face turn upward, hands lying by your side. Basically, like a dead man. Not sure why, but I attend to have a lot of such dreams when I'm lying in this sort of ways.

I know there is something else ... forgot what ...

Seraphim

by 111111

Time does not exist; it's all a circle, feeding upon it's own tail, like the World Serpent. Deja vu is when Mankind breaks through it's own artificial sense of Time, and recaptures the Timelessness that is God.

Actually, I disagree. Not sure about Deja Vu, but in my dreams, I have sense of time, except it is forward.

It is like future is now. You know your past, you know what had happened and you can feel your surroundings ... all shows that your consciousness have a sense of time and space. Only difference is, the future is yet to come and you are in the present, dreaming of the future.

Could future be a set of Possibilities?
Each possibilities is opened and where we are heading to is depends on the present condition.

Could the mind running some sort of simulations of all this possibilities based on our current (present) state of surroundings and ourselves?

Could this Deja Vu and dreams of the future is simply one of those simulation run by the brain in our (everyone has it but some people about to view it via dreams) subconsciousness?

That's what I think anyway.

Seraphim

OK ... this dream (or precognition or whatever) I had last night is something you guys can confirm on your own.

I dreamt that I was watching the World News ... Economic session (don't ask me why since I don't know myself). There was this news about Sweden and how some countries in E.U upset over the country (Sweden) for its role in undermining some of the products which made by them.

They say Sweden is promoting its own products by telling bad things about other countries' similar products ... at least something like that. Then I heard that Sweden's (for some odd reasons) stocks in Food manufacturing and Doll industry had gone up.

As I heard this news, I see some people stepping out of some cars in front of a large building with dark brown bricks and a door which was darker than the door itself. Not sure ... the building seems to be somewhere in Europe ...

Well ... that's it ... that's all I had dream about. Let's see if it comes true or not.

echidna

I've been told that the associated neurological disorder of "jamais dit" is common in the speech regions of the male brain post-matrimony.

Wounded King

Mecha,

Your thinking of a topic and then having it appear on TV is an example of synchronicity. It is similar to the way people often think about a friend they havent talked to in a while and then get a Phone call from them that same day. The most obvious explanation for this is that people are incredibly bad at calculating probabilities and keeping track of their thoughts. Anything which occurs and makes a particular thought stand out makes it more memorable, hence all the many times we think of someone and they dont call are not factored into the equation. Similarly one of the reasons we are thinking about a particular topic may be connected to the reasons why such a thing turns up on TV. Jung wrote a short book on the topic of synchronicity with a number of amusing anecdotal examples, he believed synchronicity was a phenomenon with an underlying basis in the collective unconscious, Im still going for the people being crap at judging probabilities explanation however.

TTFN,

Wounded

Giorgia

Sorry I've been away and haven't replied to your questions. I'm overwhelmed by some business matters right now -- "I'll be back" in a while.