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Bubba · 04-13-2003, 05:30 PM

I'm not sure why, but every time I get on to theology web and only theology web my computer crashes. I think that My Apple G4 will only compute "reasonable and coherent bullshit..."

I think most of the things on Theology web fall under Bumble Bee Tuna's post in Secular lifestyle and support named "People Actually Believe This Bullshit?"

PZ, I see why you despise the philsophy behind Christianity. I also really wonder how many people that Socrates has tuned on to Jeebus with his wrath and stupidity.

Bubba

lpetrich · 04-13-2003, 05:37 PM

However, I run Apple's Safari in MacOS X -- and theologyweb has never crashed Safari, let alone the whole OS.

Non-praying Mantis · 04-14-2003, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mfaber
What is worse...algae and fungi ARE NOT plants and don't reproduce from seeds, using combinations of cell division (yeasts), fragmentation, daughter colony formation and sporulation instead.

Hell, for that matter, not even all PLANTS reproduce from seeds! Mosses (and other Bryophytes) and Ferns (and other Pterophytes(?)) use spores, as well as sperm and eggs. They have no seeds.

NPM

Happy Wonderer · 04-14-2003, 01:29 PM

Great site you found! That Socrates is a gem:

Quote:

Woman:
When organ transplants began there was a terrible cry from those who said it was immoral especially if it were a transplanted heart, citing Biblical reasons.

Socrates:
Any evidence for that? The trouble with human cloning is that whole miniature human persons are experimented on.

Maybe this is the historical Socrates reanimated, his science certainly dates from that era

hwSocrates

Mageth · 04-14-2003, 02:11 PM

"Algae along with fungi and all plants must have evolved from a few seeds that managed to survive the flood. In just a few thousand years. �

Sheesh. There's a 4700+ year old Bristlecone Pine in the White Mountains of California/Nevada. Maybe all the plants evolved from it.

(second time today I've been able to use that factoid)

Peez · 04-15-2003, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Non-praying Mantis:
Hell, for that matter, not even all PLANTS reproduce from seeds! Mosses (and other Bryophytes) and Ferns (and other Pterophytes(?)) use spores, as well as sperm and eggs. They have no seeds.

According to Biology, Sixth Edition (Campbell and Reece, 2002), the phylum that includes the ferns and horsetails is Pterophyta, and the term pteridophyte refers to all seedless vascular plants. This brings up a minor peeve of mine with Biblical "science," the use of the word "seed" in reference to human sperm:

Quote:

Genesis 38:9
Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother's wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother.

If one wished to use a botanical metaphor for sperm, pollen would be more appropriate (though still not precise). I suspect that "seed" was used because of a belief that sperm really was a kind of seed (rather than half of a zygote, the nearest thing to a human seed). This is also reflected in the way that a woman's role in reproduction is described:

Quote:

Genesis 11:30
But Sarai was barren; she had no child.

Women who don't get pregnant are barren, just like land where seeds don't grow. So much for inspired scientific knowledge.

Peez

RufusAtticus · 04-15-2003, 07:36 AM

Peez,

The technical terms sperm and semen also come from the same idea.

Sperm Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French esperme, from Late Latin spermat-, sperma, from Greek, literally, seed, from speirein to sow; probably akin to Armenian p'aratem I dispense

Semen Etymology: Middle English, from Latin, seed, semen; akin to Old High German sAmo seed, Latin serere to sow -- more at SOW

(M-W.com)

Doubting Didymus · 04-15-2003, 03:24 PM

Bloody latin.

Latin is a language as dead as dead can be.
First it killed the romans, and now it's killing me.

(sorry)

Invader Tak · 04-15-2003, 06:25 PM

Quote:

"goo to you via the zoo"

I'm getting this on a T-shirt.

Coragyps · 04-15-2003, 06:42 PM

Ooh! Ooh! Invader, make me one too!

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04-13-2003, 05:30 PM	#21
Bubba Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Orient, OH USA Posts: 1,501	I'm not sure why, but every time I get on to theology web and only theology web my computer crashes. I think that My Apple G4 will only compute "reasonable and coherent bullshit..." I think most of the things on Theology web fall under Bumble Bee Tuna's post in Secular lifestyle and support named "People Actually Believe This Bullshit?" PZ, I see why you despise the philsophy behind Christianity. I also really wonder how many people that Socrates has tuned on to Jeebus with his wrath and stupidity. Bubba

04-13-2003, 05:37 PM	#22
lpetrich Contributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lebanon, OR, USA Posts: 16,829	However, I run Apple's Safari in MacOS X -- and theologyweb has never crashed Safari, let alone the whole OS.

04-14-2003, 02:11 PM	#25
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	"Algae along with fungi and all plants must have evolved from a few seeds that managed to survive the flood. In just a few thousand years. � Sheesh. There's a 4700+ year old Bristlecone Pine in the White Mountains of California/Nevada. Maybe all the plants evolved from it. (second time today I've been able to use that factoid)

04-15-2003, 07:36 AM	#27
RufusAtticus Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NCSU Posts: 5,853	Peez, The technical terms sperm and semen also come from the same idea. Sperm Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French esperme, from Late Latin spermat-, sperma, from Greek, literally, seed, from speirein to sow; probably akin to Armenian p'aratem I dispense Semen Etymology: Middle English, from Latin, seed, semen; akin to Old High German sAmo seed, Latin serere to sow -- more at SOW (M-W.com)

04-15-2003, 03:24 PM	#28
Doubting Didymus Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: East Coast. Australia. Posts: 5,455	Bloody latin. Latin is a language as dead as dead can be. First it killed the romans, and now it's killing me. (sorry)

04-15-2003, 06:42 PM	#30
Coragyps Veteran Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Snyder,Texas,USA Posts: 4,411	Ooh! Ooh! Invader, make me one too!

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