m00ner

A while back in my Civics class, we talked about whether or not there should be a required service for all US citizens to join the military for a certain length of time. I was the only one that agreed with it, simply because I was the only one that realized what that really meant, which was an improvement in self-discipline, self defense, and other traits learned from people that join the military. My classmates ignored those and concentrated on "how hard it would be to leave their families", but if they would truly think about it, then I doubt they would continue to feel the same way.

This would be a great thing for US citizens, namely women, who really need to concentrate more on self defense, which could prevent nearly all future rapes or other violent acts against women, helping our nation's reputation.

Am I the only one that feels this way? I mean, it doesn't even need to be mandatory, but at least better-paying to attract more people to join. After all, isn't our government based on money anyway?

hezekiah jones

Why don't you think the people that disagree with it know what it means too?

m00ner

First, the kids don't always listen to the geek freshman with acne.

Second, the kids at my school are very, very dumb, and are much too ignorant to pay attention to detail and not just jump to conclusion and stick with the hastily-made decision.

ju'iblex

I disagree, military service should not be mandatory. If we want people to learn self defence, let's put mandatory school-long self defence programs in public schools. And self-discipline, that's a very fuzzy word indeed.

a) unprovable assertion, and unlikely.
b) you cannot effectively say that it's the women who "need to concentrate"
c) mandatory military service, in essence means that if America wants to boost their economy again, people aren't given the choice whether they want to live or die, kids are forced to go. I consider that a horrific thing.

hezekiah jones

Originally posted by m00ner
First, the kids don't always listen to the geek freshman with acne.

Second, the kids at my school are very, very dumb, and are much too ignorant to pay attention to detail and not just jump to conclusion and stick with the hastily-made decision.

That may be the case, but if there are 45 kids in your class, and 44 of them are opposed to mandatory military service, it doesn't follow that they are opposed because they don't understand in the same manner that you do.

Jinto

You know, if I was one of those losers who just take on a job for the benefits without considering what they'll actually be asked to do, I'd sign up for the military too. But let's remember one thing: being in the military means that I might be asked to kill for the Government. Frankly, I and many others wouldn't be able to live with ourselves if we ever served in the armed forces of such an immoral and dishonest regime. I won't even scratch the idiocy of having everybody work for the federal government in ANY capacity, or a program sponsored for the explicit purpose of behavior modification of American citizens. Hello: if American citizens need behavior modification, it is to actually THINK for themselves rather than conforming to someone else's notion of "discipline. "

Oh, and your classmates are idiots, but that does not make your argument any less wrong.

m00ner

To be in the military does not require you to kill someone, unless of course you are in the first infantry division of the marines, then you'll probably have to.

The way I see it, it should just be military training that one should do, and not just training about how to shoot a gun to kill someone.

Ronin

Well, then...sign me up for the Pascifist Cadet Corp. and send me straight to military training.

m00ner

Ho ho!!! HA!!! OH MAN THAT IS HILARIOUS!!

Ronin

Hey...the evening show is different than the afternoon show, so come on back...oh, and try the veal.