Gurdur

I'ld like to hear from as many people as possible as to whether

1. They think there is a real SecWeb community (and not, perhaps, just a convenient fiction)
   
2. If they do so, what do they think their own moral obligations to that community are;
   
3. and if they think that the SecWeb commmunity has moral obligations to them as members thereof.

PLEASE do not argue with each other on this thread; I want as full a survey of people's opinions as possible, and infighting will only degrade the signal-to-noise ratio

Thank-you !

christ-on-a-stick

1. Yes, I do believe that there is a real community here.

2. I believe my personal moral obligations to the community to be to a) abide by the policies/rules & regulations thereof and b) to attempt at all times to be a "constructive" (for lack of a better word) member of the community (as opposed to trolling/intentionally being disruptive etc.)

3. As it stands now I do not believe the SecWeb community to have any explicit moral obligations to me other than to reciprocally abide by the stated policies.*

*I had previously believed there to be a sort of "implicit" ethical obligation of the administrators and moderators to strive to maintain the "spirit" of the community as being a "safe place" (yes I am thinking specifically of the SL&S forum and not the issue of reporting plagiarism but the issue of possible "outing" of a member without their consent). I realize that this sounds vague but I can't seem to find any better words for it at the moment; while I fully realize that anyone could reply "well you had no good reason to believe that, the internet is a public forum and the rules don't say anything about protection of privacy", and they would be correct, the fact remains that I have in fact sort of assumed that. Perhaps that has been an erroneous assumption. I look forward to others' thoughts on this.

B. H. Manners

Many people do often ask for advice here at II regarding things of a personal, religious, family,secular, ect. nature. I guess in that sense there is a spirit of community.

beejay

1. Yes, for the most part, I think we are participating in a community.

2. Abide by the rules. Assume that those who come to the community are acting honorably and fairly unless given reason to believe otherwise.

3. Reciprocate (see #2). Also, although there is clearly no legal expectation of privacy, I still thought our statements were private within this community. I don't think comments made here should be revealed outside the commmunity unless it is clear that action is needed to prevent physical harm to others.

Vorkosigan

Point of thread??

christ-on-a-stick

Wow. I'm genuinely surprised (and I don't surprise easily!) at the lack of response to this thread, and frankly, the last post. I was genuinely looking forward to seeing what other people's thoughts on this matter were - in my mind at least, it's not a trivial thing.

So I guess I should sound like a typical Southern California girl and say... WHATEVER!!!!!

(apologies for the sarcasm... need coffee...)

beyelzu

1. I do feel that I am a member of the SecWeb community.
2. The only responsibility I feel is to obey the rules of said community, and offer support, criticism, reason to the other members.
3.I think that the fact that there is a community and that the admin and mods make that possible is what they provide.

Gurdur

heh, thanks.

This might have gotten better play in Miscellaneous Discussions, where more people hang out; OTOH, it might also have gotten more easily sidetracked.
One possibility is to change the question slightly, and instead of asking people what their ideas of their moral obligations towards and from the SecWeb community is, to ask them instead just what their overall expectations towards and from the SecWeb community are.
But that's an idea for a different survey thread.

BTW, the SecWeb community for the purposes of this survey includes anyone who feels they belong to such a thing (so, for example, including possibly HelenM or Seebs), and is seperate of course completely from SecWeb admin or the FPF.

livius drusus

Pardon my tardiness, but I've had to ruminate on this one a while.

1. I know it's lame and somewhat reductionist, but I felt the need to look up a definition of community just to make sure I wasn't entirely talking out of my ass. Although the physical proximity elements do not apply to the SecWeb, I believe the common interests, distinct segment of society, identity and fellowship aspects do.

2. My moral obligations are to follow and uphold the forum rules and policies, to support it by donating my time and/or money, and (and I know this is entirely my own hangup) make a concerted effort to keep the quality of discourse as high as possible.

3. I don't think the SecWeb has much in the way of moral obligations to me personally, no, but I do think it has a general obligation to respect the privacy of posters, particularly in regards to their atheism.

Kuu

II am not sure about this community as I still feel more like a visitor at the moment, that is probably just me through.