Thieving Magpie

That doesn't mean you are an atheist.

hezekiah jones

This is comical. So what is it exactly that atheists have faith in again?

beastmaster

Magpie, what is it that you think atheists do? Beat up old people? Eat babies? No, our non-belief is characterized by non-action, pure and simple.

Philosoft

Eh?
Interesting. Technically, I have no POSSIBLE idea of what God could be. The only things I can conceive of are either made of matter or have the potential to be material. I'm not aware that God is either of those things. Now, if you're talking about gods, I have plenty of ideas of those.
I don't have an idea of "what God is" but when someone says God is the supernatural creator of the universe, I can still say "I don't believe in that."

seebs

Once again, we see the strong/weak atheism thing rear its head.

Weak atheism: No faith.
Strong atheism: Some faith.

beyelzu

i am an atheist.

i pray to my non-god darwin and pray that he may select me through natural selection. i use my nonfaith in my bible, origin of species, to find rules by which to live.

oh wait thats all wrong.

i see no factual evidence that there is a god and then i go wait maybe there isnt one.

Amos

How would you know what faith is if you have none?

beyelzu

i can see its effect on other people and examine myself for those effects.

faith = resistance to reason.
faith = dogma and resistance to change


lets see no on both counts, i must be free of faith.

its just like a disease, you just have to check for symptoms.

Ronin

Let me get this straight ~

Deity: That which is beyond knowledge, but not the common notion of "God".

To this strong atheist, that posits your unqualifiable 'deity' as utterly irrelevant to reality in plain view or the real human condition ~ which is qualifiable and is gloriously lacking in fucking 'deities'.

And, unless you can point to a deity, what is your point again?!

PS Thieving Magpie and seebs: Are you Christians or what?

(please recognize that that requires a 'yes' or 'no' answer).

Philosoft

Okay.
Faith in what? I've never seen a "strong atheist" say something like, "I believe God does not exist in spite of the lack of evidence that God does not exist." In my experience, a "strong atheist" is usually someone who acknowledges the logical incompatibility of a particular god-concept's alleged properties. I would really like to meet one of these "strong atheists" who says things that imply "faith" that God does not exist.