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Old 07-24-2003, 02:54 PM   #31
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I dispute that God commanded ..........Or that He commanded humans to fast one particular month in the year.

What's wrong with fasting.....new studies indicate that fasting is a very healthy procedure for humans redistributing insulin to safe and productive levels. I am sure G-d wants his children to be healthy. Also, It builds character and discipline. Ask anyone , who actually fasted.
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Interesting account of the Kaaba here, River. Just one problemo: I don't believe Adam and Eve existed. I'm an evolutionist.

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What's wrong with fasting.....new studies indicate that fasting is a very healthy procedure for humans redistributing insulin to safe and productive levels. I am sure G-d wants his children to be healthy. Also, It builds character and discipline. Ask anyone , who actually fasted.


Nothing wrong with fasting, and I did it once too, but I don't think it's a command of God. I'm a humanist, and I think all humanists are on the right track. Since God lacks nothing, there is nothing you can do to serve Him directly - neither ritual nor praise nor faith. The only law, the only thing about which you will be asked when you stand in front of God after you die, is the law of living a loving, kindly life. This alone is true religion.
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The only law, the only thing about which you will be asked when you stand in front of God after you die, is the law of living a loving, kindly life. This alone is true religion. [/B]

And you will also be asked whether or not you insulted his name or his Representatives ( the Prophets and Messengers).
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And you will also be asked whether or not you insulted his name


No, He doesn't ask about that. He is self-secure and doesn't care about people making fun of Him. He's not a spoilt child. It's not a good thing to do, but it's ridiculous to think you can offend God that way. The only way to offend God is to behave badly towards fellow creatures.
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Just one problemo: I don't believe Adam and Eve existed. I'm an evolutionist.

Even scientists believe in Eve........The Mitochondrial Eve.
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No, He doesn't ask about that. He is self-secure and doesn't care about people making fun of Him. He's not a spoilt child. It's not a good thing to do, but it's ridiculous to think you can offend God that way. The only way to offend God is to behave badly towards fellow creatures. [/B]

G-d is All-Knowing. But do YOU know ( with certainty)....what you state with confidence?
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I believe and trust. Every time a Christian, for example, tells me of how God will burn unbelievers eternally in hell, I counter that by saying I trust God enough not to do as the Devil does. I believe God is a cut above being insulted by a few humans who make fun of Him.
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The only law, the only thing about which you will be asked when you stand in front of God after you die, is the law of living a loving, kindly life. This alone is true religion.
Says you?

Ah, and with what authority do you pronounce this?

How can you say that something is, when you are only making it up? At least I have something to refer to, whenever trying to make a pronouncement.
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I believe and trust. Every time a Christian, for example, tells me of how God will burn unbelievers eternally in hell, I counter that by saying I trust God enough not to do as the Devil does. I believe God is a cut above being insulted by a few humans who make fun of Him.
what devil do you speak of? I have never heard of the Devil burning people in hell... where did you get that from?
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How can you say that something is, when you are only making it up? At least I have something to refer to, whenever trying to make a pronouncement.
You're talking about the Bible, right? Then your authority is something that other men made up. No better than mine, in principle.

However, I'm not making these things up. They come from spiritualist sources: near-death experiences and channelled books such as Spirit Teachings. Directly from the afterlife, where truth is known. Whether you choose to believe them is another matter, but know I'm not making this up.

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what devil do you speak of? I have never heard of the Devil burning people in hell... where did you get that from?


No, but a God who would burn people in hell for eternity would be the Devil.
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