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Old 07-29-2003, 07:08 AM   #131
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But that doesn't change the fact that I am eccentric. Hell, I don't even have any friends. No one would ever like me, and they certainly wouldn't be like me. I just conflict with other people too much.
Jeez I wonder why I felt that relating my insecurity at your age would be relevant in this thread. I know it made me feel better to convince myself that I was different and better than my peers, you know, an objective observer removed to the outside looking in seeing all the idiocy and pointlessness of most of the social interaction of my fellow teens. Gob I don�t have any idea why I thought my experience might relate to you.

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Oh yes, I did check out the link. Okay, a metal-head girl who is an atheist, yeah, nothing new to me...
But she has the same false sense of superiority regarding her being different from her peers that you do. You�re perfect for one another.



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The fact is, there aren't enough people with my brains in the world, and certainly not enough females. And how many of those are attractive enough (sad but alas we cannot forget that)?
Boy this is a great pick-up line. Stick with this and they�ll be beating down your door, just not for romance.

Ah the pretty girls don�t like you because you�re not superficial enough and you don�t like the smart girls because they�re too ugly. Great attitude.

Being defeatist and arrogant ain�t the way to go. You�ll turn off otherwise interested women and you�ll dismiss potential relationships because you�ll see some flaw in yourself or your girl of interest and write off the possibility before you ever go on a date.
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I am "better" than my peers because they are idiots, and I am not.
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Old 07-29-2003, 11:56 AM   #133
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Ah the pretty girls don?t like you because you?re not superficial enough and you don?t like the smart girls because they?re too ugly. Great attitude.

The pretty girls don't like me because I am ugly.


I don't like the pretty girls because they aren't like me intellectually and those that are like me intellectually I most likely wouldn't be physically attracted to.

Honestly, you think I would "date" a mormon or Jehovah's witness? Why would I want anything less than a rational, intelligent skeptic?
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Old 07-29-2003, 12:15 PM   #134
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So you think "pretty girls" can't be intelligent? That simply means you haven't been to enough places.
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Old 07-29-2003, 12:23 PM   #135
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I am "better" than my peers because they are idiots, and I am not.
If you seriously believe that then you have real problems. Forget finding a g/f, first off concentrate on making some friends. You won't be able to that if you assume everyone is an idiot. People will be able to tell right off the mark that you think you're better than them and will probably avoid you because of it. I wouldn't be surprised if this has already happened to you. You have to judge people on there merits not on the standards that you feel they fail to live up to.
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Things I learned in college:

I like good sex with ugly women better than I like bad sex with pretty women.

I get along much better with a woman who has different interests but the same emotional needs as me than with one who has the same interests but different emotional needs. My relationship with a fellow geek ended in flames, pain, and gnashing of teeth. My relationship with a more mainstream woman who liked the kind of emotional support I gave, and vice versa, turned out much better (and is still a going deal after almost 10 years).

It's better to stick with someone who makes you mostly happy now, than spend years of pain and agony searching for someone who will make you happier. Spending time with someone where there's potential tends to result in increasing levels of happiness over time. Waiting for the perfect person wastes lots of time that could be spent being happy. This is the engineer in me talking: it's the Time-Integral Happiness that's important, not the maximum peak happiness.

But remember good sex with ugly girls. I think I would have been a much happier person if I'd have figured that out sooner. Oh for a time machine...

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Old 07-29-2003, 02:19 PM   #137
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Dark Cobra,

You said the likelihood of finding someone you'd be attracted to is nil, because of your eccentricity and intellect.

Why do you suppose people like Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison, Steven Hawking, and Marie Curie found others they were attracted to? Could it be because they didn't assume it was impossible before the fact?

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Old 07-29-2003, 02:24 PM   #138
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I have to wonder what other teenagers on these forums would think of this attitude.

If there is even one intelligent girl out there that you would consider attractive, who is sufficiently skeptical, and who is not so superficial that she would write you off immediately because of your physical appearance, your little comfy fiction is shot to hell.

Of course, Bellevue, Nebraska, is a microcosm of the world. If it doesn't walk past your face in Bellevue, it doesn't exist anywhere.

Assume for a minute that this rarest of creatures is not as extinct as you think. I know, I know... There's no way I'm as intelligent as you are, and there's no reason you should play along. But having lived for 17 years twice, just humor the senile old fart.

You encounter this amazing person somewhere in the not-too-distant future. Doesn't matter where, but you're forced into conversation somehow and you realize she might be approaching your impressive levels of intelligence. She looks at you warmly and smiles, and even makes a humorously snide remark about some nearby religious iconography.

Okay, assuming you can imagine this scene (and surely imagination is a hallmark of intelligence), ask yourself:

What can I offer her that makes me a better companion than anyone else?

What we've seen so far is an award-winning recipie that includes arrogance, defeatism, poor social skills, and a dash of sexism wrapped in some nice, doughy misogyny. If there was an Iron Chef competition for unappealing teens, Chairman Kaga Takeshi would give you four stars.

(I apologize for the pop culture reference. My subliterate self cannot help it. To make matters worse, I almost compared you to a "Hildi room," but went down Iron Chef avenue. I do not deserve the love of the hot, hot skeptic chick with the Gaiman fixation that I currently enjoy.)

Now, maybe it's me, but I don't believe in that particular instance you'll be playing from a position of strength.

So, until you do some serious introspection, what you've got here is a self-fulfilling prophecy. [Serious introspection != whining on a message board]

I think we've pretty much gone as far as we can with you. The thing about this place is that people are always willing to help, but only if you're willing to pitch in, too. Probably another side effect of lesser intelligences, but so what? Give me someone who enjoys laughing and talking over some surly whineball who can ace his SATs.

We've only got one trip on the planet. Intelligence is valuable, but it's not all-important.
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Old 07-29-2003, 03:16 PM   #139
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I have to wonder what other teenagers on these forums would think of this attitude.
I'm not exactly thrilled by that attitude. I've been known to carry it at times, but usually not for more than a class period.

I wonder what one 'Blex would say to this whole discussion.
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Dark Cobra,

You said the likelihood of finding someone you'd be attracted to is nil, because of your eccentricity and intellect.

Why do you suppose people like Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison, Steven Hawking, and Marie Curie found others they were attracted to? Could it be because they didn't assume it was impossible before the fact?

MHB

Fame helps, you know.

And with the exception of Stephen Hawking, I think their relationships weren't exactly great.
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