Mageth

Yes, but in the 2nd Shroud of Turin thread we both participate in, he had a cheerleader whose name was Sockpuppet (subsequently changed to MadKally, and eventually banned). That sockpuppet named Sockpuppet opined "Koy rules!" and other insubstantial drivel so when Koy says that he never has used a sockpuppet, I can only roll my eyes.

Umm, the sock puppet titled Sockpuppet, and the user MadKally, were both Mad Kally's accounts, not Koy's.

And yes, she was a big fan of Koy. So am I.

Koy Rules!

So, now am I his sock puppet?

Koyaanisqatsi

leonarde, what the hell are you talking about?



For the last time, I have never used a sockpuppet nor ever had any need to use one, especially in regard to anything you've ever posted. I already have my nome-d'plume (Koyaanisqatsi). Why the f*ck would I need another one?

But because you are so fixated on this to have caused the derailment of two threads now with this crap, I have just asked Peter Kirby to officially confirm this {snip by mod}.

And as for the arterial wounds thing in this thread (34 or 38), do you seriously think I give a shit about that older thread or you or the shroud that I would retain anything about it off the top of my head? {snip by mod}

That thread was over a year ago and your arguments were decimated by everyone involved in that thread, not just by me; just as I see the exact same stupid arguments are being roundly trounced here.

I post only under "Koyaanisqatsi" and have never, in the entire three years I've been posting here, posted under any other name. Got that?

mfaber

Thanks for posting that disclaimer AGAIN, Koy!!! Now back to the discussion (I hope)...............


Because they are as afflicted by pareidolia as the Whangers. Here's one of their so-called flower images + it's caption:






A coronal image of a chrysanthemum produced by Oswald Schewermann (left)the image on the Shroud of Turin (center) and an illustration of the flower (right)
© 1997 Alan Whanger

This indistinct field is almost as bad as the one from the coin. Mums have elongated petals. The "petals" (if I look really hard) in this image look fat and almost perfectly round and nothing like any 'mum, not even the ones placed in the image to 'help' you see it. Where Oswald and Co. got a 'mum out of that is beyond me.

The image is from THIS SITE

I am continually amazed at how people can be fooled and our brain sometimes aids in that deception. The truth is that our impulse to connect the dots is pre-wired. If you don't think so try About Optical Illusions.

Have some fun with these illusions known as visual paradoxs:

http://pages.prodigy.net/lofting/Slide11j.jpg

http://pages.prodigy.net/lofting/Slide13j.jpg

http://pages.prodigy.net/lofting/opti4.jpg

leonarde

Partial post:I did not raise the question of whose account Sockpuppet was using: I raised the question of why, on an overall fairly substantial thread about the Shroud of Turin, some mindlessly enthusiastic self-described sockpuppet was endorsing Koy's---- and only Koy's position(s), when Koy says that he has never used a sockpuppet. That is not answered by referring to "accounts" since one cannot have a "sockpuppet" without having another (ie a second) account.

Cheers!

leonarde

Mfarber,

I'm sorry but I can see the flower in that image as well: I saw it 2 or 3 years ago the first time I looked at it, I can see it today. But I would remind that the Israeli experts in botany did NOT merely recognize a flower or two: they recognized several species of plants which are indigeneous to the Near East only. In some cases they were able, based on budding state etc to determine the time of year when the flowers were picked: spring. The Israeli experts confirmed that these species, which individually have various ranges, as a group displayed on the Shroud indicate a provenance near the Jerusalem area. These flower species designated by the botany experts are among the species indicated by the pollen samples taken from the Shroud via sticky tape by Max Frei in 1973 and 1978.


Cheers!

AndresDeLaHoz

It's someone who enjoys Koy's posts.


That's it.

It's someone who enjoys Koy's posts and is vocal about it.




Now stop conjuring multi-user conspiracies as a lame attempt at dodging the real issues here.



*that's to the post above the post above this*

leonarde

Partial post (minus most of the obscenities):No, I don't think you "retain .....off the top of [your] head" much of anything at all: that's why you screwed up the number of arterial wounds: you invent stuff on one thread for one purpose, deny that you invented it (blaming it all on Meacham who never claimed any such thing), then more than a year later completely forget the exact number you invented.

I DO think you may consult the 18 pager from time to time (at least when there's another Shroud of Turin thread underway) for otherwise the congruities I already mentioned between the remarks about "background" are not easily explained. I myself have linked that 18 pager to just about every S of Turin thread since. Not so much for the "dialogue" as for the links.

Cheers!

hezekiah jones

I really enjoy mkoyrber's posts too.

Signed,
Mrs. S. Puppet

Principia

Koy rules!

Principia

Good eyes, mfarber. The petals look definitely a bit fatter than the depictions of chrysanthemums. Did I say 'a bit'?? I meant, a whole lot!