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acronos · 07-26-2002, 09:41 AM

What do you mean by the word universe? If you mean the local 4 dimensions that we currently experience then I agree with you that the universe is finite in the time dimension with a starting event. I do not necessarily limit our Universe with a capital 'U' to those four dimensions. I can envision a Universe that is to our universe what our planet is to space or a three dimensional sphere is to a two dimensional surface. The Universe with a capital 'U' may be eternal and infinite while the universe with a lower case 'u' may be finite.

In relativity time was supposed to be created in the big bang. What is the meaning of eternal if time didn't exist before the creation or our universe?

Writer@Large · 07-26-2002, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by Thiaoouba:
- but your unwillingness to take up the above challenge will simply exemplify your argumentative defeat - inability to counter-argue something that you yourself have labeled as "ridiculous".

Ahhh, but Thia, we've been down that route before. Let's not forget the <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=22&t=000027" target="_blank">first time I questioned you on your cult</a>, or the time I e-mailed Dr. Chalko for ANY sort of empirical proof. None was forthcoming; none ever will be forthcoming. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs; the burden, as has been said so many times, is on the one claiming a thing to be.

Same shit, folks, different day. Thiaoouba has been around <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=40&t=000186" target="_blank">many, </a><a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=40&t=000538" target="_blank">many,</a> <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=58&t=000478&p=" target="_blank">many</a> times before. <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=58&t=000478&p=2" target="_blank">On page 2 of this thread</a>, my March 20, 2002 08:35 AM post chronicles some of the more ridiculous things to come out of "Abduction to the 9th Planet" [retitled "The Thiaoouba Prophecy" by Chalko and his ilk]. As Thia here has already shown, his presence here this time is merely to peddle the same New Age nonsense.

--W@L

Kharakov · 07-26-2002, 09:39 PM

W@L-

I read the excerpts from thi's book- and it moved me. I think I need to get into contact with the leader.

nana-nana-nana-nana-nana-nana-nana-nana leader...leader nana-nana-nana-nana-nana-nana-nana-nana leader..leader

-k

Mad Kally · 07-26-2002, 10:11 PM

Get a load of <a href="http://www.thiaoouba.com/i9.htm" target="_blank"> this! </a>

Jonesy · 07-29-2002, 07:24 AM

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Originally posted by Writer@Large:


Ahhh, but Thia, we've been down that route before. Let's not forget the <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=22&t=000027" target="_blank">first time I questioned you on your cult</a>, or the time I e-mailed Dr. Chalko for ANY sort of empirical proof. None was forthcoming; none ever will be forthcoming. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs; the burden, as has been said so many times, is on the one claiming a thing to be.

Same shit, folks, different day. Thiaoouba has been around <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=40&t=000186" target="_blank">many, </a><a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=40&t=000538" target="_blank">many,</a> <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=58&t=000478&p=" target="_blank">many</a> times before. <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=58&t=000478&p=2" target="_blank">On page 2 of this thread</a>, my March 20, 2002 08:35 AM post chronicles some of the more ridiculous things to come out of "Abduction to the 9th Planet" [retitled "The Thiaoouba Prophecy" by Chalko and his ilk]. As Thia here has already shown, his presence here this time is merely to peddle the same New Age nonsense.

--W@L

That does not counter-argue anything...

Mageth · 07-29-2002, 07:26 AM

Would someone please put one of those damn t-shirts on Jesus, for Christ's sake!

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07-26-2002, 09:41 AM	#31
acronos Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 216	What do you mean by the word universe? If you mean the local 4 dimensions that we currently experience then I agree with you that the universe is finite in the time dimension with a starting event. I do not necessarily limit our Universe with a capital 'U' to those four dimensions. I can envision a Universe that is to our universe what our planet is to space or a three dimensional sphere is to a two dimensional surface. The Universe with a capital 'U' may be eternal and infinite while the universe with a lower case 'u' may be finite. In relativity time was supposed to be created in the big bang. What is the meaning of eternal if time didn't exist before the creation or our universe?

07-26-2002, 09:39 PM	#33
Kharakov Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Fidel Posts: 3,383	W@L- I read the excerpts from thi's book- and it moved me. I think I need to get into contact with the leader. nana-nana-nana-nana-nana-nana-nana-nana leader...leader nana-nana-nana-nana-nana-nana-nana-nana leader..leader -k

07-26-2002, 10:11 PM	#34
Mad Kally Banned Join Date: May 2001 Location: LALA Land in California Posts: 3,764	Get a load of <a href="http://www.thiaoouba.com/i9.htm" target="_blank"> this! </a>

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