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Old 05-18-2003, 03:35 PM   #41
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"Firefly:

Captain: "Let's shoot them."
Crewman: "Are you sure that's wise?"
Captain: "Do you know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I'll BEAT YOU WITH until you realize who's in command."
Crewman: "Aye Aye, sir!"


OK, how about Farscape:

John: Pilot! do something!!!
Pilot: I can't! Moya is very upset, she's flying in circles!
John: Zahn, can't you do some kind of weird Delvian magic voodoo thing?
Zahn: Pilot! for the love of the Goddess!! Frelling Do something!
Rygel: can't we eat first?
D'argo: I'm going to stuff that little Hiberian head of yours right up your frarn!
Aeryn: grrrrrrrrr I'm getting into my frelling prowler.
Scorpy: John, I do not believe I am in this scene.
Pixanne: what?
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Old 05-18-2003, 04:57 PM   #42
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two things that I really don't like about Star Trek is the way that Starfleet is always based on the navy. Why is there no military or marines? And most of all, they need an air force. It would look cooler if they had individual fighters rather than those wimpy shuttles! I also really hate the fact that they almost never show us what civilian life is like in the future! It's almost always a mystery. What is a typical civilian life like? What are their schools like? What do they do for their free time? We only see life from the Starfleet point of view! What is this, recruitment propaganda? Otherwise, I really like the series. I enjoy the way they at least try to enforce continuity. They even explained why humans were able to procreate with other alien races in one episode.
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I really don't like about Star Trek is the way that Starfleet is always based on the navy. Why is there no military or marines
Heh, read the rest of this thread (they have National Guards, Marines, Rangers, and other ground forces).
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Hey, that's his opinion. I have yet to hear Startrek use the term Marines. I did hear them use the term ground forces though, but the Navy does have their own version of ground forces. But the ones in Startrek are called "security forces". However, they are not troops dedicated totally to ground war, only to battle intruders when they invade the ships.
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Hey, that's his opinion. I have yet to hear Startrek use the term Marines. I did hear them use the term ground forces though, but the Navy does have their own version of ground forces. But the ones in Startrek are called "security forces". However, they are not troops dedicated totally to ground war, only to battle intruders when they invade the ships.
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It isn't opinion, it's something from a Star Trek show and possibly movies (I have only watched one ST movie so I don't know about those). In an episode of DS9 "Federation Marines" came passing through on a transport ship. Their pedigree as a descendant of the USMC was mentioned and their role was described as fighting on the ground. There have also been references to other ground forces seperate from Starfleet (for instance, when Bajor become a Federation planet I think they talked about how not all of the Bajoran militia would become Starfleet, but rather a lot of the rank and file would be Bajoran National Guard). There have been quite a few mentions of forces that serve on the ground only and basically get on ships just to go to the next place, and mentionings of how when a planet joins the Federation existing armies aren't always scrapped but aren't always fully incorporated into Starfleet, and there have been references and inclusioms of Marines, Rangers, and other ground forces seperate from the normal security contingent present on a normal Starfleet ship or installation.
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Also, Star Trek is sort of racist in a weird way. The species all seem to be able to mate (ie. Worf knocked up a human by accident, so it didn't need medical help, Gul du Kat accidentally got a Bajoran pregnant, there are numerous other multi "species" characters...) yet each alien group is ostensibly a seperate species. But I thought different species can't succesfully mate? At best can't they get together and make offspring that can't reproduce? So aren't all these different humanoid species really variations of the same species? And as has been mentioned, why is it that almost every character from each "species" is a walking talking steretype of that species? Oh well, I watch Star Trek to turn off the mind, so I guess it doesn't matter.

Oh, another fave: The way Klingons changed in appearance from the original series to the current look (from TNG forward). It was hilarious, on DS9 they saw a clip of the old Klingons and the non Klingons were confused and turned to Word and he said "we do not like to talk about what happened."
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Any episode involving the holodeck (as a major plot device).
hah! Ditto on that one.

I hate it whenever Picard and Data go into the holodeck to reenact something. Inevitably, it's Sherlock Holmes, or a wild wild west story (sans Will Smith), or a film-noir, 1930s kind of story. Why did they keep going back to all these American stories? Picard is FRENCH!!!! Also, wouldn't have been more interesting to act out Julius Caesar's last days? Alexander the Great? Or I dunno -- be a pirate or something?

which brings me to another pet peeve. A lot of the guys in Star Trek shows have this weird fetish for the 20th century. Examples can be seen in the aforementioned holodeck stories they use, except for the wild wild west ones. You can also see it with Paris in Voyager. It was all Camaros and rock 'n' roll and television. Did he even eat popcorn in one episode? I'm not sure... I think Riker was one as well, but I don't remember any specific instances of drooling about 20th century stuff.

I mean, I can understand why the writers would do this -- it's an easy device for plot and character-building. But I wish they could've also created a guy with a 19th century fetish as well or something. So that when Paris goes on and on about cars and planes, that guy could just stand off to the side in a Victorian outfit and say, "Pardon me, but I'm late for my scheduled appearance in Holodeck One as Heathcliff from Wuthering Heights."
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The one where LaForge had to find a way to get the Enterprise past a boobie trap/bunch of meteors where he recreated the woman who designed the ships warp drive/engines on the holodeck made pretty good use of the holodeck, though maybe it was just overshadowed by the sheer volume of Treknobabble.
Heh

Leah Brahms. And I think he ended up meeting the real Leah in a later episode, and the holodeck thing came up.
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Heh

Leah Brahms. And I think he ended up meeting the real Leah in a later episode, and the holodeck thing came up.
Yep.

And he and Leah (or someone named Leah) were married in the possible future in the season finale.
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This is dated, I know, but I thought I'd link to it anyway.
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You guys all suck.

TNG rocks.

(and, no, I won't elaborate..screw you all. )
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