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Majestyk · 04-24-2003, 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by id.s
As for the sixties well they were a
blur of idealistic thought.When we grew up we found a world that was owned by adults.Conformity became the norm and I watched all those dreams of peace and love as just a mask for wo/mans greed. Take the draft dodgers from the states.These oppressed men were forced into wars that have no purpose but greed while the currency for this lower slave strata is our flesh and bones.While rich industrialists are fucking your wives and children you hug your machine gun like it's your wifes final piece of security'sitting in your atheistic foxhole.These men from the states unfortunately brought their diseases to our country.Being infected psychologically by their quest for drugs to deal with these pressures and being strangers in a strange space time made us aware that there out to get you.This ain't paranoia on our parts but an uneasiness that maybe, they know how we think,so maybe its time to question the why of thinking and believing.

I gotta admit, I didn't see that coming.

Godless Dave · 04-24-2003, 11:15 AM

di�neftiti

Ronin · 04-24-2003, 11:19 AM

I know the answer.

id.s · 04-24-2003, 11:37 AM

I hate to get you angry at me so lets define a belief system for you----Belief system is defined as consistent attitude held by people irrespective of the availability of factual information.-Atheism fits this category so it is a belief SYSTEM.If you want to believe in something remotely real then we should concentrate our efforts to build a moral order that rests on creating a dichotamy between constructiveness and destructiveness and not get stuck on the concepts of good and evil.If you believe in good and evil you are not worthy of being called an atheist.

Eudaimonist · 04-24-2003, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by id.s
If you want to believe in something remotely real then we should concentrate our efforts to build a moral order that rests on creating a dichotamy between constructiveness and destructiveness and not get stuck on the concepts of good and evil.If you believe in good and evil you are not worthy of being called an atheist.

Are you aware that the words "good" and "evil" can be interpreted to mean "constructiveness" and "destructiveness"?

Majestyk · 04-24-2003, 11:44 AM

On a side note. You can get some very entertaining links when you do a search for "dnftt".

Ronin · 04-24-2003, 11:45 AM

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I hate...

ah...poseur.

carry on, then.

you almost had it, id.s

TomboyMom · 04-24-2003, 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by Monkeybot
I rarely say this but...

DNFTT

I searched the web for email abbreviations but couldn't find this one. What is "DNFFT"?

Rene

MollyMac · 04-24-2003, 11:56 AM

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...lets define a belief system for you----Belief system is defined as consistent attitude held by people irrespective of the availability of factual information.-Atheism fits this category so it is a belief SYSTEM.

I disagree with your definition of a belief SYSTEM. I would define it as a set of connected beliefs. Therefore atheism isn't a belief SYSTEM. It's simply a lack of belief in any god or gods. And it's precisely because of the lack of "availability of any factual information" that most of us here define ourselves as atheists.

Btw, thanks for the PM. I'm flattered.

id.s · 04-24-2003, 12:01 PM

go to nietzsche--Good-Noble and priveleged Bad-of the common people.Evil is a social construct that implies some form of divine will at work.As an atheist you should know that to imply supreme evil also implies supreme good.You can't make excuses like Bushey does and have any credibility so until you come up with something real stay away.

04-24-2003, 11:37 AM	#54
id.s Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: VICTORIA B. C. CANADA Posts: 206	belief system I hate to get you angry at me so lets define a belief system for you----Belief system is defined as consistent attitude held by people irrespective of the availability of factual information.-Atheism fits this category so it is a belief SYSTEM.If you want to believe in something remotely real then we should concentrate our efforts to build a moral order that rests on creating a dichotamy between constructiveness and destructiveness and not get stuck on the concepts of good and evil.If you believe in good and evil you are not worthy of being called an atheist.

04-24-2003, 12:01 PM	#60
id.s Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: VICTORIA B. C. CANADA Posts: 206	good and evil go to nietzsche--Good-Noble and priveleged Bad-of the common people.Evil is a social construct that implies some form of divine will at work.As an atheist you should know that to imply supreme evil also implies supreme good.You can't make excuses like Bushey does and have any credibility so until you come up with something real stay away.

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Majestyk Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 2,846	On a side note. You can get some very entertaining links when you do a search for "dnftt".

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