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Old 01-29-2002, 09:04 AM   #21
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Atheist121:
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1. More intelligent people
2. A better education system (one that requires people to think in addition learning)

It's obvious that no amount of evidence will convince them. Of course, most of them don't even look at any evidence, but people generally don't like reading science books. More importantly, most Creationists I've seen don't understand basic principles of evidence, and furthermore are clueless about how science works.
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Unfortunately, a lot of people are clueless about science and I don't see things getting better for a lot of the population. Look at the concerted effort to destroy the public schools. In Michigan, the legislature and the governor are working really hard to turn the public schools into little more than warehouses. And they are doing it in the name of better education. The Gov. will never admit he just wants to destroy his main political nemesis, the MEA.
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Old 01-29-2002, 11:42 AM   #22
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This is in particular a problem for the USA. It must be something to do with your education system. Maybe you need to have a core national curriculum that includes science -- the content of what is taught under this heading to be determined by scientists. Democracy is irrelevant to such questions: voting for pi to be set equal to 5 in all schools won't make it true mathematics, nor will voting for so-called "creation science" make it have any connection with science.
 
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Creationism, in the US at least, seems to be a problem that stems from the education system. According to the latest national survey, only around 50% of Americans know that the Earth goes around the Sun once per year <img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[Bang Head]" />

<a href="http://www.nsf.gov/sbe/srs/seind00/frames.htm" target="_blank">http://www.nsf.gov/sbe/srs/seind00/frames.htm</a>
Graph 8-4.

When you have so many people that are so ignorant of basic science such as that, you cannot be surprised when they fall for pseudo-scientific crap spewed by creationists. Until general education improves, I don't think much can be done to 'put an end' to creationism.

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Old 01-29-2002, 01:39 PM   #24
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I don't remember who stated this, but I remember hearing that the difference in curiosity levels between pre-schoolers and like 4th graders is astounding. It seems as thought we condition our children to view learning as boring and uncool. I know that, as a college student, it's been hard for me to let go of those stereotypes of studying being boring and school being a place you didn't want to go to.

I've discovered that I love to learn new things, I like going to class, and I don't mind studying all that much. But it was a hard road. What do we do to our children (and what do children do to other children) to make school and learning seem like the thing opposite what makes you cool?
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What will it take to end all of this?

A dog would have to give birth to a cat. Suddenly, every creationist would have to accept evolution...and scietists would of course dump evolution as well all know it. Ironic, eh?
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Originally posted by BLoggins02:
<strong>What do we do to our children (and what do children do to other children) to make school and learning seem like the thing opposite what makes you cool?</strong>
(off topic here but had to comment)

I love watching science shows with my kids. They're all eyes and ears and ask all kinds of questions afterwards.
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