Ted Hoffman

He must have been speaking to himself when he posted that to me. His conscience was telling him what he needs to do. Now reasonabledoubt has also told him the same.
Time to do something Vanderzyden. Next time, who knows, it might be your cat telling you "you know what that is? If not, then perhaps you should go learn, as it is essential to the type of critique you are attempting." . Then your world is gonna get all weird.

Vanderzyden

I have already demonstrated my understanding of the Levant, which is roughly equivalent to the area in the fourth paragraph of that source.

Now, are you through being petty? Do you have something of substance to contribute or are you just attempting to discredit me?

(I realize that perhaps it is my mistake for allowing myself to be drawn into this tangent. I'll have to watch for that next time.)

Vanderzyden

Jayhawker Soule

The sole demostration of your understanding of the Levant is the following pretentious claim:

What is your evidence for this "understanding"?

I don't know you. Discrediting your pedantic assertions is, indeed, a petty task.

You quote Rohl ...

Your thread proudly proclaims: "Hebrew slaves in Egypt!" The dust has now settled and we find

• You have presented no evidence that these "well over forty" Asiatic servants were Hebrew.
• You have presented no arguments showing how the existence of "well over forty" Asiatic servants, Hebrew or otherwise, might have any probative value.
• You have addressed none of the substantive issues and arguments raised in the thread.

Your contribution to this thread are reducible to ...<ol type="1">[*]Hebrew slaves in Egypt![*]Semitic people originate from the Levant.[*]I will stop here.[/list=a]... i.e., an irrelevant assumption, a dubious assertion, and a short-lived promise. You're on a roll ...

davidH

lol,

Well, I see it is still a touchy subject

If you did remember I left because I was going on holidays...

Maybe my theory was disliked so much because it fitted in perfectly with Egyptian history and since it backs up the exodus....of course it has to be crap.

It is worth a poll here,
How many people would be willing to accept the exodus if undeniable evidence came up? How many would grudgingly do so...
Think about it - all this comes down to is Israel's history versus Egypt's history. Israel's history is always viewed skeptically - always. When infact evidence shows that Egyptians altered their history to blot out embarassing peroids..

Maybe worth thinking about this and whether you are coming from a neutral position..

Kosh

Do you understand what "lol" means?


Yeah, that's it. Tell ya what, why don't you write an article and have it published in a peer reviewed publication?

That's a silly poll. Why would anyone not accept hard facts? The problem here is, you don't seem to understand the difference between hard facts/evidence, and speculation.

Note also that even though you tried to fire up your Exodus thread again after you return, NOBODY was biting. You were ignored by all. Why do you think that is?

Ron Garrett

In the same sense evidence exists to "corroborate" the contents of all historical fictions, such as Mika Waltari's books (The Roman, The Egyptian) or John Jakes "North and South." The stories take place in a historical setting and the names of historical characters are used. This does not make the stories factual and actual, nor does this make the stories a direct revelation from a cosmic creator.

I would not seriously dispute that some of the Bible's contents refer to real people and real events, but clearly all do not unless one believes in talking snakes and jackasses. So the question becomes one of where to draw the line. Also we have to consider the degree to which the archeology of the past two centuries in Palestine has largely been aimed at establishing the veracity of the scriptures. There is certainly a political motivation for doing so, since the entire Jewish claim on the territory Israel took from the local Arab population is based on the notion of a land covenant between Yahweh and the Israelites.

A broken piece of pottery is open to many interpretations and labels. Even if we grant that like most texts of ancient civilizations, those of the OT contain references to some actual events and persons, this does not force the conclusion that we are reading history, let alone the very words of the creator, anymore than the fact that my high school history book contains actual facts and actual persons makes it divine revelation, or even words to live by.

wade-w

And Troy was found using the Iliad as a guide. Does that mean that Zeus is real?

Marduk

“How many people would be willing to accept the exodus if undeniable evidence came up? How many would grudgingly do so...”

I already believe that people whose descendants became the “Israelites” once lived and worked in Egypt and at some point left.
Whether the creator of the entire universe conducted some shady real-estate transaction with them remains to be seen.

WRW Mattfeld

I have an article showing that David Rohl's "New Chronology" is seriously flawed and
NOT supported by the archaeological evidence found in ancient Canaan. Cf.
the following url

<a href="http://www.bibleorigins.net/RohlsChronologyDeconstructed.html" target="_blank">http://www.bibleorigins.net/RohlsChronologyDeconstructed.html</a>

All the best, Walter
Walter R. Mattfeld, M.A. Ed.
<a href="http://www.bibleorigins.net" target="_blank">www.bibleorigins.net</a>