JaeIsGod

Well , thats why I asked. Christianity was just the first thing that popped in my head since its by far the most dominant religion around here. In case I insulted you , my apolegies =]

Family Man

I wouldn't have created them in the first place.

Ojuice5001

Well, I get the feeling that this isn't really about the greatest mass murderers ever, but rather seeks to show that hell is justifiable in principle. Therefore, I'll approach your post from that angle, placing special attention on your assumption that God sends everyone to either heaven or hell.

You know, the reason I left Christianity was because it believes that "Heaven or Hell" are the only two options for anyone. I can't see how anyone could look at the real world, with all its glorious mediocrity, and say, "You know, it looks to me like there are two kinds of people. For one kind of person, an utterly horrible fate is appropriate. And for the other kind of person, an utterly blissful fate is appropriate. But there aren't any people for whom a more moderate fate is appropriate, or nonexistence--nope, just people that are fit for heaven, and people that are fit for hell."

You see what I'm saying? Most people are mediocre, according to any criterion relevant to justice. They don't deserve either something really bad, or something really good. That's why we don't execute graffiti perpetrators, or give medals and a large cash prize to someone just for being a nice guy. So unless we're willing to admit the possibility that those policies would in fact be just, I don't see how you can argue that it's appropriate to send that same graffiti perpetrator or nice guy to hell or heaven.

And it gets worse. If the heavenbound people are radically different from the hellbound people, why don't they look radically different? I mean, heaven and hell are polar opposites, so a person who belongs in heaven must be the polar opposite of a person who belongs in hell. But if those two categories are exhaustive, then it gets hard to avoid one of these two conclusions: "Hitler [or St. Francis] belongs in hell [or heaven]. Now, I'm very different from Hitler [or St. Francis] and therefore I must not deserve the same fate as he does. And heaven and hell are the only two afterlives, so I must be destined for heaven [or hell]." Both conclusions are absurd, but if everyone goes to either heaven or hell, one of the versions of that pair of sentences must be a valid argument. Funny how you can't really tell which one it is though....

beth

Well, I'm not really sure, but I do kinda have the image of Hitler in hell being eternally tortured with pinapples burned into my mind.

*check your PM's*

wordsmyth

If I were God, I would have much greater concerns than the goings on of a few insignificant lifeforms on a tiny unremarkable planet in some distant corner of a vast and ever expanding, ever changing universe.

However, if I were the God of a single, flat world with a dome overhead that is the center of a universe where all the visible lights in the night sky weren't stars, but merely tiny lights like they appear to the naked eye, then I would refuse to answer this question because who are you to question my will and motives.

Darth Dane

Which would negate any need for a physical earthly life, due to the inevitable heavenly outcome. And since you have a physical earthly life, the god of love that you believe in does not exist.


No, it is indeed Love that we are here!


We wanted to be here on earth, starting in ignorance, travelling and ends in enlightenment.

We want to re-experience and discover ourselves.


Ask and you shall be given


We asked for this earthly Life, we want to feel what it is to be physical in this sense.

In dreams in it is very untangible.

try to really touch something in your dreams, if you become concious in your dreams.










DD - Love & Laughter

Howard

I’d force then to debate eternally on the Secular Web in the EoG forum against people like Koy and RW.

Ojuice5001

Now that's hell. And I mean that primarily as a compliment to Koy and RW.

sophie

Sartre's Huis Clos.

Novowels

Send them? Why would I send them anywhere?

If you mean, "after they die, where do they go" then... Uh, they're dead. They don't go anywhere. In case you didn't notice... They're dead. Their brains aren't working anymore. There's nothing to send anywhere.