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CX · 01-30-2002, 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by Anunnaki:
Toto`s page is probably a lot more reliable than these two pages I found lastnight......

<a href="http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/monstr.htm" target="_blank">Here`s</a> what the Seventh-Day Adventists have to say on the subject. (much of it coincides with Toto`s link)

<a href="http://www.cathinsight.com/apologetics/adventism/monstr.htm" target="_blank">Here`s</a> the Catholic response to the SDA`s page listed above. Their rebuttle sounds like pure BS and it`s capped off by their ending paragraph....

So it`s either Toto`s "WooWoo" link or the wacko links above that we must take our info from. Perhaps CowboyX would care to let us in on some sources he trusts on this issue or maybe we`ll just have a new age bashing fest and this thread will go the way of my Jesus Mysteries thread.

[ January 30, 2002: Message edited by: Anunnaki ]

Hold on there. I am not the one putting forward a position. I was simply criticising the source for this information and asking if there was a more reliable one. As for newage (rhymes with sewage) bashing, well, I guess I'm guilty as charged. But that is beside the point which is that this source is making somewhat extravagant claims and I for one would like to see additional evidence that isn't sectarian. Perhaps something from an expert on Roman History. I'm not saying it's impossible what this individual is saying I'm saying I question his motives since it's obvious he has an agenda and I have just as much reason to believe the Catholic version of the story (which is to say none).

Anunnaki · 01-30-2002, 10:05 AM

Fortuna,
I have little interest in what the SDA and the Catholic church has to say. They are both wacko`s and I have no time for morons who foolishly insist that their religion be taken literally.
I was just using them to show that pagan sources are far more reliable than anything we`ll ever get from the church.

Btw,
What the heck is "religious syncretion"? Syncretion is not found in the dictionary,thesaurus or encyclopedia.

[ January 30, 2002: Message edited by: Anunnaki ]

Anunnaki · 01-30-2002, 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by CowboyX:


Hold on there. I am not the one putting forward a position. I was simply criticising the source for this information and asking if there was a more reliable one. As for newage (rhymes with sewage) bashing, well, I guess I'm guilty as charged.

Of course you should want to check for sources,but I see no reason to bash it on first sight just because the author has a spiritual agenda. This is exactly what happened with the Jesus Mysteries thread and I`d really hate to see a repeat of that.

And these Pagan sites are not talking about pyramid power,super charged healing water or other "newage" baloney. They are talking about gnosis and Mystery religions that have been around for thousands of years. This is not what I`d call NEWage.

[ January 30, 2002: Message edited by: Anunnaki ]

RyanS2 · 01-30-2002, 05:01 PM

I found a webpage on Gnosticism and some spirituality that seems to be written by a more level-headed fellow, and it's pretty well-documented what he's claiming.

<a href="http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/gnosis/secret.html" target="_blank">http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/gnosis/secret.html</a>

Kosh · 01-30-2002, 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by Anunnaki:
So what if these sources have a Pagan agenda? What does it matter to us if they would like to see Christianity to return to it`s gnostic origins?

Just to add another data point here, the SDA
aren't the only Christians to take this stance
towards the Catholic church and idolatry worship.
When I was a member of the Southern Baptist church,
our pastor was rather fond of making these same
accusations.

Southern Baptists detest the Catholics as much
as us Bronco's fans detest the Raiders...

CX · 01-31-2002, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Anunnaki:
Fortuna,
I have little interest in what the SDA and the Catholic church has to say. They are both wacko`s and I have no time for morons who foolishly insist that their religion be taken literally.
I was just using them to show that pagan sources are far more reliable than anything we`ll ever get from the church.

Btw,
What the heck is "religious syncretion"? Syncretion is not found in the dictionary,thesaurus or encyclopedia.

[ January 30, 2002: Message edited by: Anunnaki ]

I'm sure he meant "syncretism". Are you just being pedantic or did you really not know that?

Anunnaki · 01-31-2002, 08:46 AM

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Originally posted by CowboyX:

I'm sure he meant "syncretism". Are you just being pedantic or did you really not know that?

Nothing pedantic about it. I really didn`t know what it meant so I typed it into an online dictionary,but got no results. Usually it pulls up a few alternatives or close matches to account for poor spelling and words that just don`t exist,but this time it had nothing.

Btw,
It took about 15 seconds to find a Christian website that claims syncretism is a tool of <a href="http://www.mb-soft.com/believe/txc/syncreti.htm" target="_blank">Satan</a> .

Quote:

The Bible reveals syncretism as a long - standing tool of Satan to separate God from his people.

[ January 31, 2002: Message edited by: Anunnaki ]

CX · 01-31-2002, 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by Anunnaki:

Btw,
It took about 15 seconds to find a Christian website that claims syncretism is a tool
of Satan .

quote:

The Bible reveals syncretism as a long - standing tool of Satan to
separate God from his people.
]

Well yeah! That and "diabolical mimcry" are the horned one's biggest guns. Anybody knows that.

Pantera · 01-31-2002, 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by Anunnaki:
...I see no reason to bash it on first sight just because the author has a spiritual agenda.

Quote:

Originally posted by Anunnaki:
I have little interest in what the SDA and the Catholic church has to say. They are both wacko`s and I have no time for morons who foolishly insist that their religion be taken literally.

LOL!!!!!

Anunnaki · 01-31-2002, 01:46 PM

Very funny Pantera.

What you have done is quote me out of context and make me appear to contradict myself.

These people with the "spiritual agenda" I`m referring to are Pagans and Gnostics who understand that the stories of miracles,supernatural powers and other tall tales of christ figures are allegory and not meant to be taken literally.
This is very different view from that of the SDA and Catholic church.

[ January 31, 2002: Message edited by: Anunnaki ]

01-30-2002, 10:05 AM	#12
Anunnaki Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: I`ve left and gone away Posts: 699	Fortuna, I have little interest in what the SDA and the Catholic church has to say. They are both wacko`s and I have no time for morons who foolishly insist that their religion be taken literally. I was just using them to show that pagan sources are far more reliable than anything we`ll ever get from the church. Btw, What the heck is "religious syncretion"? Syncretion is not found in the dictionary,thesaurus or encyclopedia. [ January 30, 2002: Message edited by: Anunnaki ]</p>

01-31-2002, 01:46 PM	#20
Anunnaki Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: I`ve left and gone away Posts: 699	Very funny Pantera. What you have done is quote me out of context and make me appear to contradict myself. These people with the "spiritual agenda" I`m referring to are Pagans and Gnostics who understand that the stories of miracles,supernatural powers and other tall tales of christ figures are allegory and not meant to be taken literally. This is very different view from that of the SDA and Catholic church. [ January 31, 2002: Message edited by: Anunnaki ]</p>

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01-30-2002, 05:01 PM	#14
RyanS2 Regular Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Louisiana Posts: 216	I found a webpage on Gnosticism and some spirituality that seems to be written by a more level-headed fellow, and it's pretty well-documented what he's claiming. <a href="http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/gnosis/secret.html" target="_blank">http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/gnosis/secret.html</a>

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