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Grumpy · 06-23-2002, 01:24 PM

Is it possible the object referred to is the cross-piece, the shorter, horizontal member? As I understand it, the stauros upon which a criminal was crucified was already at the site; the cross-pieces were new for each prisoner.

I can imagine someone being interred with his personal cross-piece, though I don't know why anyone would do so.

One of the last sane · 06-23-2002, 02:17 PM

Somehow I find the idea of people using the stauros as a tent-pole a little hard to accept. It would be like camping under a gallows, wouldn't it?

Marduk · 06-23-2002, 02:45 PM

Let's not forget Old Testament apocrypha and Pseudopigrapha like the Books of Enoch, Noah, Adam & Eve, The DSS 'Book of the Giants' The Apocalypse of Abraham etc. Very cool stuff, lots of stories about Angels screwing earth women and producing a race of ornery giants who rape cows and stuff. wild wild stuff!

offa · 06-23-2002, 03:23 PM

offa; Ahem, to one of the last of the sane

Did you read any of my references?

Or, are you talking out of your fundie ass?

thanks,
offa

offa · 06-23-2002, 03:38 PM

offa, Thanks Marduck. Your profound remark was accurate. Of course, because I agree with you does not mean you agree with me. I accept that.

The angels were Hebrew Priests that took advantage of thier youthful clientele. Kind of like the Catholic Church scandal, except, it was more heteral.

thanks,
offa

Marduk · 06-23-2002, 03:42 PM

Fair enough Offa, but who were the Giants or Nephilim then?

Celsus · 06-24-2002, 12:12 PM

How well attested are these books? Comparable to the rest of the gospels?

One of the last sane · 06-24-2002, 04:51 PM

Offa, why do you suppose I'm a fundie? I'm an atheist.

Peter Kirby · 06-24-2002, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by One of last of the sane:
<strong>Offa, why do you suppose I'm a fundie? I'm an atheist.</strong>

You're obviously a fundie because you don't agree with offa.

best,
Peter Kirby

One of the last sane · 06-24-2002, 05:45 PM

Ahhh. Thank you. Most illuminating.
Offa seems to regard this Barbara Thiering person as infallible. Me, I don't regard anyone or anything as infallible.

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06-23-2002, 01:24 PM	#11
Grumpy Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 1,535	Is it possible the object referred to is the cross-piece, the shorter, horizontal member? As I understand it, the stauros upon which a criminal was crucified was already at the site; the cross-pieces were new for each prisoner. I can imagine someone being interred with his personal cross-piece, though I don't know why anyone would do so.

06-23-2002, 02:17 PM	#12
One of the last sane Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: hereabouts Posts: 734	Somehow I find the idea of people using the stauros as a tent-pole a little hard to accept. It would be like camping under a gallows, wouldn't it?

06-23-2002, 02:45 PM	#13
Marduk Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: the 10th planet Posts: 5,065	Let's not forget Old Testament apocrypha and Pseudopigrapha like the Books of Enoch, Noah, Adam & Eve, The DSS 'Book of the Giants' The Apocalypse of Abraham etc. Very cool stuff, lots of stories about Angels screwing earth women and producing a race of ornery giants who rape cows and stuff. wild wild stuff!

06-23-2002, 03:23 PM	#14
offa Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Monroeville, Ohio, USA Posts: 440	offa; Ahem, to one of the last of the sane Did you read any of my references? Or, are you talking out of your fundie ass? thanks, offa

06-23-2002, 03:38 PM	#15
offa Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Monroeville, Ohio, USA Posts: 440	offa, Thanks Marduck. Your profound remark was accurate. Of course, because I agree with you does not mean you agree with me. I accept that. The angels were Hebrew Priests that took advantage of thier youthful clientele. Kind of like the Catholic Church scandal, except, it was more heteral. thanks, offa

06-23-2002, 03:42 PM	#16
Marduk Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: the 10th planet Posts: 5,065	Fair enough Offa, but who were the Giants or Nephilim then?

06-24-2002, 12:12 PM	#17
Celsus Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Singapore Posts: 2,875	How well attested are these books? Comparable to the rest of the gospels?

06-24-2002, 04:51 PM	#18
One of the last sane Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: hereabouts Posts: 734	Offa, why do you suppose I'm a fundie? I'm an atheist.

06-24-2002, 05:45 PM	#20
One of the last sane Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: hereabouts Posts: 734	Ahhh. Thank you. Most illuminating. Offa seems to regard this Barbara Thiering person as infallible. Me, I don't regard anyone or anything as infallible.

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