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lpetrich · 04-16-2003, 07:26 PM

One could always declare that one has converted to Islam and that one is looking forward to humping a harem of houris.

sourdough · 04-16-2003, 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by Pensee
I know that if I don't, they will all be worried and tormented about my "soul" burning in hell for eternity.

how can anything ie soul burn forever?

ask them what is soul,what's it made off?
how does it feel anything,when dead body obviously cant feel,hear,think,breathe etc.

Biff the unclean · 04-16-2003, 09:58 PM

But you know Pensee that if you die an Atheist, a cannibal and even a Democrat your family isn't going to believe that you are burning in Hell. Hell is for other peoples families. No one thinks that any one they love is in Hell. You've seen the Christians on this board; they believe whatever they want.

fatherphil · 04-17-2003, 12:35 PM

nothing i suppose though it might weaken the resolve of your atheist relations. do try to keep the deception between you and God though.

TiConTiki · 04-17-2003, 02:42 PM

I say go ahead and fake it. If it gets your relatives off your back - why not?

christ-on-a-stick · 04-17-2003, 02:54 PM

I wouldn't do it (at least I don't think I would, I've learned in life that sometimes ya never know *for sure* what you will do in a situation 'til it happens...) for one MAIN reason: it would only feed the theistic certainty that there are no REAL atheists, we all believe in God deep down and are just angry at him or whatever.

To see someone "stick to their guns" in the face of dying and not be freaked out about it *might* cause them to rethink that position. Maybe not, maybe even probably not, but just maybe.

HaysooChreesto! · 04-17-2003, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by Biff the unclean
But you know Pensee that if you die an Atheist, a cannibal and even a Democrat your family isn't going to believe that you are burning in Hell. Hell is for other peoples families. No one thinks that any one they love is in Hell. You've seen the Christians on this board; they believe whatever they want.

Too right. My family is convinced I'm making the trip to the Pearly Gates because when I was a kid I asked Jebus to be my saviour and blahblahblah. So I know that when I croak that's how they'll be consoling themselves at the loss of my wonderfulness.
So for me, it doesn't really matter if I cave in on my deathbed due to senility or simple fright or if I'm courageous enough to maintain my convictions. It's all good for my family.

Pensee · 04-19-2003, 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by fatherphil
nothing i suppose though it might weaken the resolve of your atheist relations. do try to keep the deception between you and God though.

In all due respect, what the hell does that mean?

fatherphil · 04-19-2003, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by Pensee
In all due respect, what the hell does that mean?

which sentence do you want clarification on?

Pensee · 04-20-2003, 02:47 PM

"...it might weaken the resolve of your atheist relations."

and

"do try to keep the deception between you and god..."

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04-16-2003, 07:26 PM	#11
lpetrich Contributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lebanon, OR, USA Posts: 16,829	One could always declare that one has converted to Islam and that one is looking forward to humping a harem of houris.

04-16-2003, 09:58 PM	#13
Biff the unclean Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: an inaccessible island fortress Posts: 10,638	But you know Pensee that if you die an Atheist, a cannibal and even a Democrat your family isn't going to believe that you are burning in Hell. Hell is for other peoples families. No one thinks that any one they love is in Hell. You've seen the Christians on this board; they believe whatever they want.

04-17-2003, 12:35 PM	#14
fatherphil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: burbank Posts: 758	nothing i suppose though it might weaken the resolve of your atheist relations. do try to keep the deception between you and God though.

04-17-2003, 02:42 PM	#15
TiConTiki Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: USA Posts: 28	I say go ahead and fake it. If it gets your relatives off your back - why not?

04-17-2003, 02:54 PM	#16
christ-on-a-stick Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Durango, Colorado Posts: 7,116	I wouldn't do it (at least I don't think I would, I've learned in life that sometimes ya never know for sure what you will do in a situation 'til it happens...) for one MAIN reason: it would only feed the theistic certainty that there are no REAL atheists, we all believe in God deep down and are just angry at him or whatever. To see someone "stick to their guns" in the face of dying and not be freaked out about it might cause them to rethink that position. Maybe not, maybe even probably not, but just maybe.

04-20-2003, 02:47 PM	#20
Pensee Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: florida Posts: 657	"...it might weaken the resolve of your atheist relations." and "do try to keep the deception between you and god..."

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